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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 September 16 21:28 BST (UK) »
I think we can delete the Thomas Clark lodging in Glasgow in 1871. Likely him in 1861 with wife Georgina:

Thomas Clark 50 saw miller b. Nairn
Georgina Clark 36

Address: 20 Main St, Glasgow/Anderston

Further, I think we can also delete the Thomas Clark, husband of Catherine Matheson. The question we had from the 1861 census entry for that Clark family is whether Catherine showed as a widow. She was a widow when she died in 1862 (with the entry found by Annie).

You have Thomas in Ontario in 1881 and then his death there in 1891.

So, back to scratch in Scotland  :-\

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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 September 16 22:25 BST (UK) »
Dave, I am tired now so won't make sense but have a look in the US for Thomas.

I think this is him in 1851 in Clinton, Macomb, Michigan:

Thomas Clarke 40 baker b. Scotland
Mary A Clarke 34 b. Canada
William Clarke 7 b. Canada
Joanna Clarke 2 b. Michigan

There is a marriage for an Isabella Clark in London, Middlesex, Ontario in 1873. Isabella was born c. 1851 in Michigan. She was marrying a Robert Allan, a baker. Parents Thomas and Mary A Clark.

And...that is as far as I have got  ;D

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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 September 16 22:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica:

The Michigan connection fits. Thomas' sister Jane Clark 1815-1893 married a Thomas Partridge 1808-1891 in Port Huron, Michigan.  About one hour today from London where other Clark folks lived.  Clinton Township is just up the road.  I think it would make the Port Huron location about half way to London.  Not sure what trains and roads would have worked like back then.  I do not have access to Michigan records but all this fits.

I downloaded a marriage for a Thomas Clark and a woman named Grant but parents are shown and not my Thomas
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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 19:13 BST (UK) »
How about this marriage for Thomas and Mary Ann? https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLPD-W8H

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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 20:03 BST (UK) »
In respect of the 1871 census in London, Ontario, wondered whether this could be Isabella, daughter of Thomas and Mary Ann, possibly with Uncle William? From what we had, she married in the area (showing on marriage reg as having married at bride's residence) in 1873.

William Clark 62 bookseller b. Scotland
Catherine Clark 60 b. Scotland
Isabella Clark 20 b. US

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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 21:37 BST (UK) »
Monica- The 1871 census had confused me previously as I assumed Isabella was William and his wife Catherine's (maiden name unknown) child.  Once the US link was established it fits!

Thanks again.  I will look for that marriage in Canadian records
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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 21:45 BST (UK) »
Just found the marriage record.  Sadly it does not list parents.  His occupation is listed as "Farmer"  in East Oxford which is near London, ON.  So far I have not found an indication he farmed but perhaps something else will click in another record.

We know his brother William arrived around 1833 so Thomas may have arrived around same time.  Wondering what the link to US was?  It does seem many folks from Canada traveled back and forth to find work or ?  Other branches of my family certainly did this.
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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 21:50 BST (UK) »
That is a pity. Ontario records can be so good in detail, but the earlier ones carry less don't they (as in Scotland pre 1855).

William's wife Catherine died 1890? No maiden name there so it doesn't help you further.

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Re: Thomas Clark birth 31 Jan 1811 in Invernessshire, Scotland
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 13 September 16 22:14 BST (UK) »
I found a possible match in the 1881 census for Catherine living in the "right" ward in London with a young woman, Maggie Henderson,but I cannot match names on the 1871 census of the same ward.  However, it is hard to say how the data was gathered as no street addresses are given.  Possibly City Directories will help.  Sadly the wife was often not listed.  I know William was well known in the community so perhaps newspaper articles will shed some light.

The death record from 1890 seems close but again no details and birth year is given as 1806.  Possibly a trip to the two largest cemeteries will yield some results.  The undertaker was listed on King Street and there is still one there but the other I knew of has closed. 

The search continues but much has been added in past few weeks.  Again, many thanks to all who have added to my research
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