children of Kelly/Duffy

[nbrome]

My grandfather George Kelly was born in Castleblaney Monaghan October 10th 1864. I have his birth cert and his parents were Patrick Kelly and Elizabeth Duffy.
I want to find out who his siblings were (although I may be on a wild goose chase).  Searching on various sites for births to these parents between 1855 and 1880 I have come up with six possibilities - George October 1864
Mary May 1865 (bit too close?)
Sarah May 1867
Ellen August 1867  (problem here!)
Patrick June 1871
Elizabeth April 1880

In the 1901 census there is a Patrick Kelly and Elizabeth Kelly in Drumore Monaghan living with their two daughters Sarah and Lissy.  The parents state they have had 6 children and they are all still living.

But they can't be the six I found can they, because of clashes in the dates of birth. Is there any point in me going on with this, or something I'm missing?
I would be grateful for comments.
By the way, George left Ireland for England when he was in his twenties. He married and died in England.

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[nbrome]

Yes, I've looked at them. The family seem to have moved around various places, Patrick was a labourer and didn't seem to have his own plot of land. So I can't link births to one particular area.
I was just wondering if anyone had any ideas about linking siblings to parents apart from births and that census of 1901.

[hallmark]

You have come up with six possibilities - George October 1864
Mary May 1865 (bit too close?)
Sarah May 1867
Ellen August 1867  (problem here!)
Patrick June 1871
Elizabeth April 1880

So search the newly released Civil Reg stuff, see what details there are for those after 1865

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E.G.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/24c0dc3650454 is Mary

with correct parents so it is just a matter of checking each   Kelly   between 1865 and 1880 selecting Castleblaney etc from Column on left.

[nbrome]

I've done all that now and printed them off.

It's not right though, is it?  Two of them are born in the same year - big hint I'm off track!
Another two have only about 7 months between them, hmm.....

Something tells me there was another couple called Patrick and Elizabeth nee Duffy in that area.
On the other hand, the Patrick and Elizabeth Kelly in Drumore Monaghan in the 1901 census say they had 6 children, and I haven't come up with any more children born to parents of that name.
Time to make a cup of tea....

[Maggsie]

Hi I have looked at several sites.
You will have to pull all these together.
George, on his Baptism record it says Birth date 4th October 1864.
In the civil register book it says date of birth 10th October 1864.
I will send the Baptism info of George, Sarah, Ellen and Elizabeth via PM.
On some it doesn't state Elizabeth's maiden name, but the address is still the same.
I will see if I can find the other 2 names.
I often wondered what an "Irish Twin" was, they are born in the same year but 9 months or so between them. Twins usually have "Twin to and the other name entered on each of the records"
Maggsie

[dathai]

for reference i think ?
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Monaghan/Carrickaslane/Lislanly/802131/
Patrick's death 1909
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05446/4523989

[Maggsie]

Hi,
Just checked and Patrick has Betty Duffy and Mary has Elizabeth Duffy.
If you get stuck please say and I will get them for you.
Maggsie