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Re: LONDON ST WWI soldiers Craven Dairy MP? Famous person? ✔ BOW STREET
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 21:05 BST (UK) »
I think the man is under arrest-I think I can just make out handcuffs on his right wrist.It looks like they are using coats over the arms in an attempt to disguise the fact.I'll see if I can post a close-up.
(my mind strayed briefly to Dublin 1916...)

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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 21:22 BST (UK) »
In the 1917 phone book a branch of Craven Dairies was listed in Bow Street, and Nicholson Distillers in St John Street in the city. Obviously these entries aren't adjacent to each other but they could be listed elsewhere

Thank you VERY much dawnsh ! I do believe your suggestion of BOW St to be correct so I'm acting as judge & jury and classifying this one as "Located".

I've enlarged the facade of the last building in the row and compared it with a view of today. Unfortunately the property immediately before has netting up for restoration work which is s*ds law. Similarly, I was in Covent Garden the day before yesterday and could have checked!

The fact that there was a pub, dairy, pub, dairy fits in with the my image. So, it HAS to be BOW St, LONDON. (Also thanks to sugarbakers for the directory info).

It would appear CRAVEN DAIRIES shop didn't last for very long.

All that remains now is who is the hatted chap?
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Re: LONDON ST WWI soldiers Craven Dairy MP? Famous person? ✔ BOW STREET
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 21:30 BST (UK) »
I think the man is under arrest-I think I can just make out handcuffs on his right wrist.It looks like they are using coats over the arms in an attempt to disguise the fact.I'll see if I can post a close-up.
(my mind strayed briefly to Dublin 1916...)

Regards
Roger

Thanks Roger....could WELL be. The book would hide the connecting chain whilst the coat hides his attachment to the soldier on the right. IF there is an Irish connection I'm certain his ID will be known. Good idea.
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Re: LONDON ST WWI soldiers Craven Dairy MP? Famous person? ✔ BOW STREET
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 22:16 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

The arched windows are Bow St Magistrates court.  Craven dairies is now part of the Marquis of Anglesea.

I doubt he is in handcuffs, at that time the police used fairly close linked wrist cuffs. Why would soldiers be escorting a prisoner away from the court. If he was military he would surely be in uniform himself, as a civilian he would be under police escort.

I think it most likely he is a well known stage actor as we are in the middle of theatre land. They are just getting in on a photo opportunity.

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Re: LONDON ST WWI soldiers Craven Dairy MP? Famous person? ✔ BOW STREET
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 14 September 16 22:59 BST (UK) »
I cannot recall when the Military Police  were formed,  but I imagine  that a prisoners escort  would be smarter  than that group,  One of them would be a sergeant,  and they would probably be carrying side arms. 
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Re: LONDON ST WWI soldiers Craven Dairy MP? Famous person? ✔ BOW STREET
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 15 September 16 04:31 BST (UK) »
I wonder  if it could be Sir Roger Casement (without beard) the famous Irish Nationalist executed in August 1916, he had a famous black book.

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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 15 September 16 07:27 BST (UK) »
The man in the photo looks younger than 50. Casement was 51 when he was executed in 1916.
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Re: LONDON ST WWI soldiers Craven Dairy MP? Famous person? ✔ BOW STREET
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 15 September 16 07:53 BST (UK) »
More to the point, from my extensive internet searching

1/ there's no getting round he did have a beard
2/ he looks nothing like the chap in the photo
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE