Searching for Garforth family in Ashton-Under-Lyne

[heywood]

Hopefully the right family in 1891

John Garforth 29 yrs
Martha A Garforth 26 yrs
Eliza Garforth 9 yrs
John Garforth 8 yrs
Florence Garforth 5 yrs
Joseph Garforth   3 yrs
Harry Garforth 11 months

I can't see the children in 1901 except that there is an Eliza Garforth 18 yrs boarding with a Charles and Betty Dean.

[Christine53]

Florence Garforth b 1886 Ashton under Lyme is in Mullers Orphan House , Ashley , Bristol in 1901.

[dcbnwh]

This record shows a sister, Florence Heath, as mentioned above by CB53

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-9981-7S2Y-6?i=673&wc=3KMS-GPY%3A1018494401%2C1018640501%3Fcc%3D2185163&cc=2185163

In 1939 Joseph gave his birth date as 1889 and Dorothy as 18th July 1898

David

[dcbnwh]

Possible matches for Dorothy?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW8N-469

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSN1-W81

There is a registration in 1897, which is a year out, although this not uncommon in 1939.

David

[Christine53]

This appears to be Joseph Garforth in 1901:

Joseph Garforth b 24 May 1886 England lodger immig 1898
Herbert H Smith b 1877 Ontario farmer
address :
Pipestone, Brandon, Manitoba
( can't download the link at mo)

There is a full , 54 page, Service record for Joseph Garforth, aka John Joseph Garforth , giving the above address and stating born Ashton under Lyme , available to download free here:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=410159

Throughout the record it gives his next of kin as Mrs Annie Garforth of 50 Park Road, Tame Valley , Dunkinfield, Cheshire. Perhaps that's why we can't find a marriage to Dorothy ? EDIT : forgot the crucial word "wife " !

[dcbnwh]

Assuming that Dorothy Alice Carter is the person in the 1901 census, three of her siblings are also in Croydon in 1939 - Janet (then Hadfield), Sidney and Dorcas.

David

[Christine53]

The Garforth family were going to 13 Salisbury Road Croydon in 1937. This matches the address for Sidney & Dorcas Carter in later records so I think you have the right family there.

Baptism :

Dorothy Alice Carter 17 Oct 1897 Icklesham St Nicholas ; John Carter labourer and Annie
Dorcas Ruth baptised same day and noted as aged 2

[Christine53]

John and Annie Carter , whilst living in Sussex , were both born in Dorset. A possible marriage:

John Carter 23 labourer , father Richard
Annie Maria Paul 23 , father William        both of Blandford
20 Sep 1880 Blandford Forum

A birth certificate for one of the children would confirm if this is correct.

[Christine53]

Her brother claims their mother was born in Addington, but which Addington and where I'm not sure (the only Addington I know is in Kent).  I hazard a guess, that back in the 1880s, people were still marrying locally, and the world was not such a globalised place, so I found on freeBMD a Dorothy Carter born in Warrington March 1887.

I've just spotted that Annie Maria Carter and family are living at New Cottages ,ADDINGTON Surrey after the death of her husband . So it is Addington , Surrey.