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marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:07 BST (UK) »
Hi team

I'm wondering if any has access to the full record of this marriage.

Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES.
27 Nov 1821 at Lanchester, Durham.

I want to know if any ages are mentioned, father's of bride/groom or any other attendants/witnesses.

I'm already raising my eyebrows at this one!!!  :o :o :o

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:13 BST (UK) »

Hi bitzar

There is a transcription of this marriage on FS it does say spouses father is William Thomas Esq. of Greenwell.

Just looking for an image of register.

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ahenry~%20%2Bsurname%3Asmales~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1821-1821~
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:19 BST (UK) »

More info here

Henry Smales abode: The North Bailey, St Mary le Bow, City of Durham

Ann Surtees abode: The Ford

Witnesses: Wm Thos and J Hutchinson

Additional info: Married by Licence with the Consent of the Guardian of the said Ann SURTEES, William Thomas GREENWELL, Esquire. Additonal Witnesses Mary SMALES, Fra SMALES, Thos WHITE and Nich GREENWELL
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:26 BST (UK) »

A bit more, she was a minor at marriage as per the licence

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6QCQ-D2F?i=647&wc=M6KL-NPD%3A129263601%2C129263602%3Fcc%3D1675690&cc=1675690

It's over two pages, 648-649

claire
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:28 BST (UK) »
Claire

As always, you're a marvel!

I had seen the FS image but I did doubt the father of the bride fact.... although possible of course!

So, what do you think the additional info means?!

bitzar
ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:31 BST (UK) »

Well I think her parents have passed away possibly.

Given she was 19 on the licence there is a baptism in 1802 in Durham

Ann Surtees bpt. 5 Mar 1802 born on the 2 March 1802

Parents: Robert Surtees and mother Margaret Robinson

Additional info: 1st daughter, father of Lanchester, mother of this parish
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Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:34 BST (UK) »

Definitely onto something here, on another transcript father is given as Robert Surtees Esq. and was his 7th child.

Wealthy family maybe?
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:43 BST (UK) »
Claire

We are trying to work it out.  You are always so wonderful....

The thing is.... Ann, wife of Henry Smales if often listed as being born c1811 from census'.  I had a awful feeling I was going to see her being married at 9 or 10 y/o...

I think William Thomas Greenwell Esq married Henry Smales' sister Dorothy Smales.

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ROBERTS / ROBERT / ROBERTSON (Paternal) - Dunbartonshire/Stirlingshire, Scotland
NEWEY - Leicestershire, England
FITZGERALD - Co. Cork - Ireland
HOWLETT - Suffolk, England
PHILMORE - Wiltshire, England
CHAPMAN - Cornwall - England
NICHOLLS - Cornwall - England
SHAW - Nottinghamshire, England
PRITCHARD - Salop, England
ROBERTS (Maternal) - Surrey, England

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Re: marriage info - 1821. Henry SMALES and Ann SURTEES
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 October 16 15:49 BST (UK) »

Yes just found an entry for the family on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Greenwell
Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
Census info is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk