second marriage

[jim charman]

I am having great difficulty in getting any info about my G/fathers  second marriage. My main trouble is I am not able to travel, being disabled.
 His name was Henry Johnson, born16th Jan 1868, married Clara Bailey 17th April 1897, she died sometime after 1906. Henry's second Marriage was to Kate*, Surname not known,that is where the troubles begin. The only record we have of Kate is that she died 1951/2 in Birmingham.
Henry was an Alderman on the Birmingham City Council when he died in May 1939. He was recorded in the 1901 census as a Wire Mattress Maker,which ties in with the fact that he started the Ideal Wire Mattress Co Ltd. originally in Bordesley  then moved later to Hay Mills. Another problem is that he was a Quaker, but unsure if it was a Quaker marriage.
The family address was 104 Third Avenue, Small Heath, in the Aston REG. DIST.
Go on; Make my day!! I would be most grateful.   

[suey]

Hi Jim - just looked in my book and it says 'civil and non-conformist marriages were subject to the system' which means that even if it were a Quaker Marriage registers would have been kept by them and copies sent to the Registrar General and superintendant registrars.
Is it possible that he did not actually marry Kate ?
Suey

[suey]

I should also have said that if they were married, you would need to look at the GRO Indexes.
It can work out a bit expensive via 1837 online if you don't know where or when.  Could a family member not help you out.
Also what info do the City Council have on him ?
Suey

[jim charman]

Hi Suey. Many thanks for your suggestions I will certainly be taking advantage of them. I did wonder myself if they did actually marry, but on reflection I cannot image that they did not, especially as "OUR ENERY" was an elder in the Quaker movement. His friends included George Cadbury of the chocolate Manufacturers.My sister got most of the info we have from the obituary column in one of the local news sheets,but we are the only living relatives as far as we know. She,my sister, now lives in Australia.
  Again many thanks
     Jim C. 
 

[Colin Charman]

Hello Jim. This is my first posting to Rootschat so I hope I'm doing it right.

I wondered which bit of the Charman family you belong to - or indeed if I've already been in touch through another web site.

Regards
Colin Charman

[jim charman]

Hi Colin ,
            Long time since we were in communication. you looked out a lot of info on my ancestors for me. You were also in contact with my sister, Joyce, in Aussie. We were both wondering if you had been too busy or had no further info for us.
             The present problem is finding my mothers(Clarice Minnie Charman nee Johnson)
fathers second marriage to  Kate* surname unknown
             Good to here from you again

 Keep up the Good Work
 Regards
                James(JIM) Henry Charman