Hannah/Anna Maria Isles marriage 1st Q 1856 Thorne help please

[kit54]

Hi,
Please can anyone help?

I know that Hannah/Anna Maria Isles was married 1st Q 1856 Thorne.

Please can anyone give me more detail, especially who Hannah/Anna Maria Isles' father was and his occupation?

Thanks,

Kit

[Ruskie]

You will need to purchase the marriage certificate to find out that information.

Have you found Hannah on the 1841 and 1851 censuses? She may be at home with her family.

[keyboard86]

Hi if she is the Hannah Isle who married George Arrand March qtr 1856 Thorne, then in 1861 census she is 20 b Roxby, Lincolnshire.
Census Ref RG09/3523/26/45
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

The above marriage would appear to be the correct one, as the other couple on the page a George Campsall and Lucy Larman seem to be the couple in 1861 Thorne, but the Hannah in the 1861 census is not her, as this Hannah was a Hannah Parkinson who married William Arrand Dec qtr 1858 Hull, and appears with him and son William b c 1860 in 1871 census
RG10/3372/85/58
Keyboard86

PS I think

EDIT in 1861 census is a George HARRAND 26 b Derrythorpe with a Hanna 26 b Crowle and an Ann 2 b ? Lincolnshire residing at Town Street, Scunthorpe, Glanford Brigg?
Census Ref RG09/2401/32/10

Yes this is the couple, as in 1871 they are Arrand, Hannah again giving b c 1835 Crowle as pob
Census Ref RG10/3433/27/4

That marriage certificate is the best way forward, but her parents could well be a Watson Isle occ Ag Lab, and Sarah?

The only puzzle is just where does the middle name Maria fit in?

PPS is that also the Hannah Isle who was buried in 1877 Hull you are looking for?

[kit54]

Hi Ruskie and Keyboard 86,

Thanks very much for your replies - I think that you have solved the problem re the marriage.

I was really looking for a Hannah/Anna Maria Isles, who was baptised in Wells, Norfolk on 17/8/1829.
I think that she was a witness at her sister's marriage in Doncaster in 1850, but after this, I can find nothing more definite on her - I thought that the above marriage might have been hers, but it is obvious now that it isn't.
Yes, I wonder if she might be the one who was buried in Hull in 1877; that's why I'm hoping to have more detail.

Thanks very much for your help, you have been wonderful!

Kit

[keyboard86]

Hi again, it would had have been a lot clearer if you had informed us about eg the witness/age etc, but is she the transcribed Hannah Maria Hind 21 occ General Servant b Wells, Norfolk (Original) residing at the Gaol/Prison in 1851 Doncaster  HO107/2347/109/9
Keyboard86

[kit54]

Sorry for any problems!

I've been trying to find her for ages, so have done quite a bit of research and had already eliminated her from certain events; by posting in the manner that I did, I simply thought that I was being as clear as possible, bearing in mind that I just wanted to know if the above marriage was for her, but again, I'm sorry for any trouble I have caused.

Thank you for finding her - but I'm mortified that she is in prison! Now, I'd love to know why and what happened to her.

Thank you, I really do appreciate your help,

Kit

[keyboard86]

  Hi it is not a problem, it just looked that you were already aware of the marriage in Thorne that's all?!

The original of that 1851 clearly shows surname as Hind though?

Also their was a birth of a Frances Ann Isles Dec qtr 1855 Goole 9c 439 who could be the Frances Ann Isle who was buried 19th August 1855 Doncaster Christchurch, Residence St James Street, South

Hannah was not in Gaol, she worked there?!
Keyboard86

Ignore birth/death how can she die before she was born!!

[kit54]

Hi,

Thanks for that - I really do appreciate it!

I can't understand how it has been written as Hind!

Please, (and I'm sorry to be a pain!), re the 1851 Census record, does it actually state that she was an inmate/prisoner, or was she definately working there?

I've noticed the Frances Ann before, but without the Birth and Death Certs, it's going to be very difficult to prove exactly who she was, but I'm grateful (again!) to you for drawing my attention to it.

Thank you so much again for all your tremendous help,

Kit