Re: Is this 'my' Archibald Scott? ***Completed thank you***

[Forfarian]

I have lost track of Archibald Scott, born in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland on 29 May 1855. The last sighting I have is in Glasgow in 1898, when he registered the death of his brother John.

However in the 1910 census, in Hudson County, New Jersey, there is an Archibald Scott, aged 54, widower, born Scotland with his daughter Margaret Cox, 23, born Scotland; grandson William Cox, 4, born New Jersey; son John Scott, 22, born Scotland; son William Scott, 22, born Scotland, and probably daughter though it says granddaughter Edith Scott, 18, born Scotland.

I have found Margaret, William Cox and Edith, who married John Perry, in both 1920 and 1930, but not Archibald, John or William Scott. I have yet to find any of the family in Scotland or in England and Wales in 1891 or 1901.

Margaret immigrated in 1902 or 1904, depending on which census you believe. Archibald, John, William and Edith immigrated in 1905, or possibly 1904 depending which census you believe. Margaret and Edith were both naturalised, Edith in 1917 if I believe the 1920 census.

I have trawled FamilySearch, the Ellis Island web site, the Hudson County Genealogical Society data bases and FindAGrave, and have failed to find any immigration or naturalisation records, the birth of William Cox or the marriage of his mother, the marriage of Edith to John Perry between 1910 and 1920, or any deaths or burials. I have also looked unsuccessfully on the State of New Jersey web site as all the events seem to be outside the dates of the searchable indexes.

Any suggestions?

BTW 'my' Archibald is the brother of James Scott (1840-1888) with whom RootsChatters have already helped me a great deal - see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=757005

Another brother, Robert, born 1858, also settled in New Jersey but I am still working on him. I think he is the one who married Jane Percy in 1894 but I am waiting to see that marriage certificate in order to make progress.

[Spidermonkey]

Not sure this is going to help you at the moment, but Archibald and family are in Edinburgh in the 1901 census (Edinburgh St Michael; ED: 116; Page: 8 ).  Margaret, William, John and Edith are all there.  I've only seen the transcription on Ancestry so I'm not going to get into how accurate the ages are etc!

[Spidermonkey]

There is a Mrs Agnes Scott travelling between Glasgow and New York with children John, Edith and William departing 20th May 1905 on the Caledonia.

[Spidermonkey]

On the New York arrivals paperwork Mrs Scott says they are heading to husband and daughter, and gives address as Mr Archibald Scott, 52 Hamilton Street, Harrison, New Jersey

[Spidermonkey]

Do you have a DOB for John Scott?  There is a WW1 draft registration card for a John Scott born 10 Oct 1888 in Edinburgh.  He has a wife and two children and works as a Printer.  Still a citizen on Great Britain.

Living at 212 William (?), Harrison, NJ

Following this through using Veterans Affairs info - this John died 13 Oct 1972.  Enlisted 12 April 1917, released 20 Feb 1919

[Forfarian]

Thanks, spidermonkey.

I see what you mean about the ages.

I hadn't considered that Archibald Scott before because he looked too young to be 'my' missing one. I've now looked at him in the original census on Scotland's People, and he is a different one. He was born in Edinburgh and his parents were John Scott and Margaret Jenkins. So it looks as if I am on a wild goose chase again

Back to the drawing board. I still cannot find 'my' Archibald in 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 or 1911, or in the Scottish death index.

[Lisa in California]

Apologies if I am missing something, but are these the facts?   

...Archibald Scott, born in East Kilbride, Lanarkshire, Scotland on 29 May 1855. The last sighting I have is in Glasgow in 1898, when he registered the death of his brother John.

Parents: James and Margaret Scott
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Have you ruled out
1881 Bothwell, Lanarkshire Census
Arch Scott, age 28, born c1853, born East Kilbride; Joiner
Janet Scott, age 25
and their two young children

He is in Bothwell in 1891, still shown as Arch, born c1853 E Kilbride; Joiner
Wife Janet and children: Janet, James, Isabella, Jeanie, John and Margt

But, perhaps this man's parents were James and Isabella?   

[Forfarian]

Have you ruled out
1881 Bothwell, Lanarkshire Census
Arch Scott, age 28, born c1853, born East Kilbride; Joiner

Yes, I have ruled him out.

This Archibald is the son of James Scott and Isabella Baird, and he is first cousin to my missing one. He married Janet Stewart in 1878, and stayed put in Bothwell for the rest of his life.

[Forfarian]

Just to let everyone know that with more help from RootsChatters I have now found 'my' Archibald Scott. See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=760450 if you are interested.