Help with the Wicken family of Westerham late 1700s to 1800s

[keyboard86]

Hi again,  the Amy scenario, suggest if 7 months old in 1851 Census she cannot be the March qtr 1849 birth registration?
Keyboard86

PS that 1796 marriage does appeal, as family appear to have connections to Lambeth/Camberwell?

[jonwicken]

Thanks for much for the information on Phoebe and pointing out about Amy too. And for the marriage suggestion.

Also I have found this Kent parishes index on familysearch, which I hadn't seen before that includes burials for Westerham:

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1952887

I have also had a look at the Westerham baptisms transcribed on findmypast which include some not on familysearch, including John's 1799 baptsm.

From these I now know the following about the two Wicken couples which most directly link with my adoptive line:

The children of Thomas Wicken and Mary:

Charlotte Wicken/Still 1798–1872
John Wicken 1799-1875 (baptised as Wickens)
Rebecca Wicken 1801-? (baptised as Wickins)
James Wicken 1804-?
Henry Wicken 1806–1848
Sarah Wicken 1808–?
Samuel Wicken 1809–?
Phoebe Wicken/Peacock 1811–1894
Harriet Wicken 1813– 1813

Rebecca and James are newly discovered siblings and along with Sarah and Samuel, I know nothing of what became of them. 

And not sure of Thomas and Mary's marriage in c1795-1797 or the couples origins, other than they were NOT born in Kent (according to the 1841 census).

The children of Thomas' son John Wicken and Charlotte Sales:

Sarah Wicken 1821–1821
Jane Wicken/Nixey 1822–1878
Phoebe Wicken/Brown 1824–aft 1845
John Wicken 1826–1848
James Wicken 1828–1865
Mary Ann Wicken 1830–1832
Sarah Wicken 1830–aft 1841
Ann Wicken 1833–aft 1841
Hannah Wicken/Record 1834–1921
William Wicken 1838–1867
Emma Wicken/Beavis 1840–aft 1891
Charlotte Wicken/Lingwood 1843–aft 1881

So it is Phoebe, Sarah and Ann who are the mysteries in this batch of Wicken children.

The family actually lived at Crockham Hill in Westerham and I have found tonight a newspaper article staing that in 1838 John Wicken, a blacksmith and farrier, was in a debtors prison.

Again, thanks for all the information,help and guidance in my Wicken quest.

Jon

[crisane]

I have lost the plot with this thread over the last few days but there is this Charlotte Lingwood in 1901. Given that your Charlotte's occupation was 'plain cook' in 1881 this could be her?
1901 RG13 piece 616 folio 132 page 5
Lodge Hill Road, The Bourne, Surrey
Charlotte Lingwood Widow 56 Cook Housemaid,  born Kent.

She is listed with a lot of other servants possibly working for the Holford family.

Death
Charlotte Lingwood
Registered June 1/4 1923
Age at Death 79 Birth about 1844
Registration district - Orsett Essex
Vol4a page 477

So where is this Charlotte in 1891 and 1911

[crisane]

1891 RG12/45/23/39
No street address Fulham, St Mary's
William Lingwood  41 groom/horsekeeper Born NK
Charlotte Lingwood  47 Born NK
Dorothey A Douce  2 months Born NK .
No births for a Dorothy Douce but could be Dorothy Agnes Dance mmn Churchill March 1/4 1891 Vol 1a page 608 Marylebone.