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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 December 16 01:06 GMT (UK) »
BDM NSW birth
26557 / 1914 DAVIES Hermia M parents Herman G / Mary S   @ Sydney
26557 / 1914 MOODIE Hermia M parents    -         / Mary S     @ Sydney


BDM VIC death
1964 / 2049   DAVIES Mary Moodie  parents DAVIES / UKN
77years  @ Beechworth

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 December 16 08:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Wivenhoe, Lu  et al

Brilliant, you have found Mary! To sum up, here is what we now knowmore or less for sure from different sources:

1911 Mary - described as a "spiritualist" - enters into a relationship with my grandfather (Herman) George (Tankersley) Davies, and leaves from NZ for Sydney with or following him (source: various newspaper reports on the testimony of George's first wife Bollettie née Rasmussen, in her divorce proceedings against him in NZ in May 1916)

1914 Mary gives birth to Hermia (Moodie Davies),father George Davies, in NSW (source: NSW BDM)

1914 Mary testifies in committal hearing of George Davies on fraud charges in Sydney in November (source: newspaper reports, which also confirm that George was sentenced to 2 years in Jan 1915)

1917 Mary gives birth to Ellis (Moodie Davies), Victoria ? Date and place anecdotal - but existence of Ellis confirmed by name on passenger list of the Maloja, arriving with the rest of the family at Plymouth on 24 Feb 1927 - and by my mother, his half-sister)

1919 divorce (presumed) from George Davies. Source: marriage certificate of George Davies and Eileen Goldberg (my grandmother) of 26 April (BDM Victoria). The certificate indicates that George was "divorced (14 March 1919)".

1964 Mary died in Beechworth, Victoria (Source: Victoria BDM)

I  have ordered Hermia's birth certificate fromm NSW BDM in the hope that it might tell us more about Mary: if possible I would still like to find out when and where Mary was born, anything about her ancestry/origins, anything about her (presumed) marriage to, and divorce from, (Herman) George (Tankersley) Davies.

Finally an anecdote and some conjecture. My mother remembers her half-brother Ellis ("Bunk") Moodie Davies with affection; he married Joan Stuchbery and re-emigrated to Australia (after the war, she thinks), after which she lost sight of him. However, my mother describes her half-sister Hermia Moodie Davies as a disturbed person who was at some point committed to a mental health facility. The conjecture is as follows: Beechworth, where Mary Moodie died in 1964, is the location of a well known lunatic asylum, originally known as Mayday Hills, subsequently Beechworth Lunatic Asylum. Could that be where Mary ended her days? And did George Davies play a part in having her committed? The earlier reference to her as a "spiritualist", her quite garbled testimony in the November 1914 hearing in Sydney, and the fate of her daugher Hermia would not be inconsistent with a person with mental health problems.

I would be truly grateful for anything else you can discover about Mary.

Many thanks

Richard

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 December 16 08:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi Handsri,

Have you looked for George DAVIES in the NSW Police Gazettes?
http://search.ancestry.com.au/search/db.aspx?dbid=1942&geo_a=r&o_iid=41019&o_lid=41019&o_sch=Web+Property

And also try the Australian National Archives.

Likewise Mary might appear in records for either Mayday Hills/ Beechworth Lunatic Asylum held by Australian National Archives.

I would suggest that you purchase an authentic copy of Mary's death certificate.

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 December 16 09:28 GMT (UK) »
With the help of AUS birth record for Hermia DAVIES as provided by wivenhoe, have now located Mary's arrival as a 3 year-old, with her family into Wellington, New Zealand in 1889.

Per "Tainui" - departed London, 18 April 1889 - arrived Wellington NZ - 9 June 1889.

MOODIE 
- Helen - 44 years - wife
- Peter - son - 22
- Margaret - dau - 20
- Adam - son - 18
- Barbara* - dau - 15
- Joan - dau - 12
- Jemima - 9
- Wm. - son - 6
- Mary - dau - 3   
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There wasn't a "husband" for Helen MOODIE included in that group ?

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 December 16 09:30 GMT (UK) »
... sorry forgot to include link for shipping list >

https://familysearch.org/saearch/collection/1609792

>  search on "mary moodie" + birth "1886"

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 December 16 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Was lucky enough to find a Probate record for a sibling of Mary MOODIE (arrived "Tainui" to Wellington - 1889)

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1865481

MOODIE - Barbara Helen - Ashburton - Spinster   --  Year:  1941

Barbara MOODIE died intestate but there was some very helpful information included in the file regarding her siblings - one of whom was  >

   Mary Sinclair DAVIES of Sydney, New South Wales - sister

[The birth record for Hermia DAVIES shows her Mother's name as "Mary S. "  ]

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 December 16 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spades and Lu

Many, many thanks - you have pretty much nailed this, now:

Mary's death certificate (BDM Vic) gives no further information about her family (a lot of "unknowns"), but confirms:

- that she died at Beechworth Mental Hospital
- that she was 77 yrs old at the time of death (which would give her DOB as c. 1887)
- that she was unmarried

So still nothing to indicate if she and George Davies were ever actually married/divorced, but that - together with the lead on Beechworth Mental Hospital and the the search for Mary's son Ellis  - is an Australian story. Likewise, Lu's information about the Moodie family's arrival in Wellington means that I will need to look in England for anything before then.

In other words, your work is done! Mary was quite a tough one, so take a big bow and give yourselves a well deserved pat on the back. Thank you to you and everyone who has helped.

All the best

Richard

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 December 16 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Richard

The MOODIE family was listed as being "English" on the passenger list for the "Tainui".

Have found them though on a Scotland census.   Will post info for you shortly.

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Re: Herman George Tankersley Davies: Mary Moodie???
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 December 16 09:53 GMT (UK) »
1881 - SCOTLAND

Civil Parish of Sandsting and Aithsting - County Shetland - Address :  Silwick

MOODIE
- Hellen
- Peter - 14
- Margaret - 12
- Adam - 9
- Barbara H. - 7
- Joan - 4
- Jemima Jane - 1

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SCOTLAND - BIRTHS

Barbara Helen MOODIE
Born :  13 September 1873
Place :  Sandsting and Aithsting - Shetland
Father :  Peter MOODIE
Mother :  Helen JAMIESON


    ~  Lu