Warwickshire / Leics family

[jim1]

Just an observation. Mary would be too young to have a child aged 17 when she's only listed as 28 in 1844 & there's a largish gap between Joseph & Emma.
Is her age on the US census consistent with a C.1816 birth ?

why do they marry again in America......

Could Mary Woodroffe have died & he's taken up with another Mary marrying later in the USA ?
Is Woodroffe her name on the USA marriage ?
Emma & William could be his illegitimate children or Mary's from a previous marriage/relationship or a bit of both.
Do you have an exact date for the 1844 passenger list ?

[Finley 1]

Thanks all

(had to go and visit live Rellies -- sorry for delay in response )

Ok... will go through and check

can see your point re age and possible a.n.other wife... Jim

so will get bac to it after food and re-coup of brain cells ....   

xin

[Finley 1]

some answers here

 I have 1850 USA census

the date of travel to USA

and the copy of 2nd marriage or alternative USA marriage


xin

[jim1]

Looks like the same Mary & her age on the manifest is wrong.
Maybe they married again because they wanted proof of marriage if they didn't bring a marriage cert. from the UK.
Although some ages are out & there's no George it looks like the same family.
I'm not sure you'll ever find proof.
Are they this family in Michigan 1870:

Thomas Newman    M 63 England
Mary Newman    F 62 England
William Newman   M 23 New York
Catharine Newman    F 22 Ireland

[Finley 1]

I think I may have found George and Emma's birth?

George born in Polesworth in 1834 and Emma -----it says ASTON JUXTA 1836
but this could be a mistranscription for Norton Juxta (hopefully maybe )
Still NO Joseph and NO 1841..

Yes think that is the correct family  Jim. xx

So its all guesstimate... I know on other branches that have taken up citizenship in USA they have given more detail regarding parentage and birth.... so maybe if I could find that

Just wish I could find the 1841... of course they could have been waiting in the Port for a passage and not ben accounted for...

Thanks everyone for help --

 
Xin

[jim1]

Aston Juxta seems to be correct but whether it's the same Thomas & Mary I couldn't say.
This is the only Baptism to a Thomas & Mary Newman in B'ham.
St. Peter's & St. Paul's Aston 14/8/1836:
You need to see another Baptism with father's occupation.
You could email the Warks. RO & ask them to look at George as you have a date & place:
http://heritage.warwickshire.gov.uk/warwickshire-county-record-office/

[Finley 1]

thanks for that Jim

I will have to slow down for a few days on this wonderful 'pastime'  as family are arriving tomorrow


really appreciate your help and will pop on when no-one is looking

xin

[willsy]

Think I have found Mary with grandparents in Atherstone

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBK-ZV5

John    Woodroffe    Male    55    1786....Tailor
Nancy    Woodroffe    Female    55    1786
Mary    Newman    Female    13    1828    Warwickshire

[Finley 1]

Just  found this.. 

Thanks Willsy

will study a.s.a.p.

much appreciated


xin