info needed on John Patrick Flannery died Scunthorpe 1952

[jess5athome]

I don't suppose that "Rose Flannery widow" on the probate could have been John Patrick Flannery's mother? if indeed they are the same man 

Frank.

That's what I asked a while ago but may have been on other site 

My apologies, I missed that 

Frank.

[hasta]

However, that means that he died intestate does it and would 'Rose' therefore be the widow of the deceased?

Yep that means he died without making a will and therefore it was up to his next of kin to apply to the court for Letters of Administration to allow them control of his estate.
I'm presuming that she would have had to produce evidence of her identity (at least you do now) and presumably a marriage cert. So I'm assuming that Rose was his first wife and it was the 1951 marriage that was bigamous ?

[aghadowey]

Not sure if it had to be next of kin to apply for probate or if you would have needed to supply any sort of proof of identity. For an earlier period I've seen estate files where the applicant had to fill out a form stating that the deceased left _ lawful spouse, _ lawful children, etc. but that may have been done after they were appointed.

Please remember that we are not allowed to post details of living, or possibly living, people.

[moiramount]

if no will was left and it went to probate like it has shown, will there be a will to apply for or will it just be a copy of the probate report that we have already seen or will it be a more indepth one with more info on.

[heywood]

I don't suppose that "Rose Flannery widow" on the probate could have been John Patrick Flannery's mother? if indeed they are the same man 

Frank.

That's what I asked a while ago but may have been on other site 

My apologies, I missed that 

Frank.

Oh I was only pointing out that two of us had a similar idea  trying to find Rose!

[heywood]

Moira,
You once wondered if you had two John Patricks.
I know you know that the 1951 man is yours - how sure are you that the 1852 death is yours?

Heywood

[moiramount]

Hi Heywood, my friends mum said he died about 5 months after she was born. My friend has visited the gravestone but it only says his death and name , nothing else. All the ages tally up.

[heywood]

Well that helps then. Thanks

Re the administration papers, there might be, or should be  I would imagine, a contact address for Rose.

[moiramount]

ok, we await in anticipation.