1st cousins, 2nd cousins or 1st cousins once removed?

[JanPennington]

I need to recheck the records but my great great grandfather and his brother married wives with the same maiden names - it caused me confusion when trying to track their children on GRO and I still have some children to sort out.

It seems that the two wives are cousins.  Does that make the children in the two families first cousins as their fathers are brothers (same paternal grandparents), second cousins because they have  common great grandparents on their mothers side, or something more complicated?

Jan

[Chilternbirder]

IIRC "removed" means a generation gap. My first cousin's daughter is my first cousin once removed and my daughter is her second cousin.

If you have letters or diaries then in extended families uncle/aunt is often used for a member of the extended family of an older generation. I spent ages looking for my mother's aunts who she told me kept a tea room in Pleshey before discovering that they were her father's first cousins.

[Ruskie]

I'm not sure if this will help or confuse the issue. The standard chart:
https://www.familytreedna.com/products.aspx

Your situation I think. You might find better examples of this:
http://apps.nolanlawson.com/relatedness-calculator/index?q=double+cousins

[aghadowey]

I need to recheck the records but my great great grandfather and his brother married wives with the same maiden names - it caused me confusion when trying to track their children on GRO and I still have some children to sort out.

It seems that the two wives are cousins.  Does that make the children in the two families first cousins as their fathers are brothers (same paternal grandparents), second cousins because they have  common great grandparents on their mothers side, or something more complicated?

Jan

They are both first cousins (through fathers) and second cousins (through mothers).

[andrewalston]

Yes, they are both first cousins and second cousins.

The software I use happily lists multiple relationships like this if it finds any.

[mikechristopher]

The software I use happily lists multiple relationships like this if it finds any.

Sorry to hijack the thread but which software is that please?

[aghadowey]

Many programmes will calculate such relationships- I know older versions of Family Tree Maker did but haven't used it in years.

[andrewalston]

The software I use happily lists multiple relationships like this if it finds any.

Sorry to hijack the thread but which software is that please?

I use The Master Genealogist. Unfortunately it is no longer available because its developer has health problems.