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Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« on: Tuesday 17 January 17 16:40 GMT (UK) »
I am having a problem tracing back the parents of Sarah Elizabeth. In 1851 the family with parents Jonas and Mary are living in Bradford with Jonas born 1820 Haworth and Mary born 1818 N Uding Yorkshire. Later census show her born 1816-18 Maningham. I can not find them in 1841. A check of gro index show all children in 1851 have mmn Brear. In 1871 Sarah Brear is with the family and shown as unmarried sister-in law.
A check of marriages with Jonas Denby/Mary Brear show two. In 1838 Bradford St Peter show Jonas(1818) and Mary (1818) and father's shown as Jonas Denby and David Brear. In 1862 a Non Conformist Bradford marriage shows Jonas (1819) with father Jonas and Mary (1816) with father Thomas. Witnesses were David and Sarah Brear.
Can anyone help me go backward?

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Added- 1871 Jonas shown as agent/collector
           1862 marriage shows Jonas as Agent and a widower. Also Jonas and Mary at different
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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 17:14 GMT (UK) »
There is a baptism of a Jonas Denby on 26 November 1819 in Haworth to Jonas & Mary Denby which may be yours.

However, there is also a baptism on 16 October 1820 Haworth of Jonas Denby to Isaac & Ellen Denby so there may well be two Jonas Denby's of similar age confusing the picture.

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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 17:22 GMT (UK) »
Found this in baptism records for Bradford : In the parish of Haworth -

Jonas Denby born 6 Nov. 1819 baptised 26 Nov. 1819, parents JONAS and MARY.

Abode: Birks
Fathers occ., Woolcomber.

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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 17:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks

The 1862 marriage looks good since occupation agrees with 1871 census however why show different residences and were Jonas and Mary living together until his previous wife died?
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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 17:46 GMT (UK) »
Maybe he married two Mary Brears.  Cousins or something with Thomas and David (the different fathers on the two marriages) being brothers,
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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 17:47 GMT (UK) »
There are 3 Jonas Denby's, all born around 1820 in the 1841 census however the Jonas son of Jonas & Mary is HO107 Book 8 Piece 1293 Folio 18 with wife Mary and daughter Martha born 1841   
and the other Jonas is at home with parents Isaac & Ellen at HO107  Book 9  Piece 1295  Folio 19 Page 8.

It really depends on which one is yours.

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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 January 17 18:05 GMT (UK) »
It seems to me that the two marriages are for two different Jonas Denby's.

The 1841 Jonas & Mary with daughter Sarah I noted previously seem to remain together as a family unit right through until the 1871 census - I haven't checked beyond that.

1841
Jonas b.c 1821 Yorkshire
Mary b.c. 1821 Yorkshire

1851
Jonas b.c. 1820  Age 31
Mary b.c. 1818  Age 33

1861
Jonas b.c. 1820  Age 41
Mary b.c. 1818  Age 43

1871
Jonas b.c. 1820  Age 51
Mary b.c. 1816   Age 55  however this is incorrect as image says age 53 therefore b.c. 1818.

These ages seem pretty consistent and probably don't leave room for Jonas to have lost this first Mary Brear and marry a second Mary Brear of exactly the same age in 1862.

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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 00:15 GMT (UK) »
Can the moderator please move topic to West York board?

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Re: Parents of Sarah Elizabeth Denby
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 January 17 00:36 GMT (UK) »
1881 Maningham _ Jonas 1820 Howarth, Mary 1816 Maningham and Sarah Denby 1812 sister in law
1891 Shipley - Jonas 1820 Howarth, and Rebcca Denby 1852 Bradford daughter
1901 Shipley - Jonas 1820 Howarth, Martha Wormesley 1840 daughter, Mary Denby 1863 gr daughter
                      John Gilbert 1877 gr son.
Jonas died 5 May 1907 Ilkey and Mary Brear Denby died 1887 Bradford District.

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