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Offline Rosinish

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:04 GMT (UK) »
How sure are you of the place of birth & age when buried?

The reason I ask is because her parents were married elsewhere:

Desmond F Taylor married Sheila F Mckenna
Dec Qtr 1957 in Liskeard, Cornwall   

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:07 GMT (UK) »
Very bizarre. The baby was  born living, the midwife couldn't come out and so cord clamping was severely delayed, subsequently the babies lungs filled with water and she died. Apparently she had a post mortum and the Newcastle bereavement office have found her in an unmarked grave in elswick cemetery.
I am searching in order to try and get a copy of the birth certificate for my grandma. She has recently had a heart attack and having no tangible record of her daughters life in playing on her mind.
Thank you for your help.

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie - yes that is them! They lived in Cornwall that's where my grandad was from then later moved to Benwell, Newcastle to start a family in my grandmas hometown.

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:11 GMT (UK) »
There is no birth registration for her showing up.  In view of the circumstances you outline above - perhaps it was overlooked 

2 male children were born to them in 1962 and 1965
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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:14 GMT (UK) »
Just a thought - can your grandmother confirm that the birth was never registered?   
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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:18 GMT (UK) »
I am searching in order to try and get a copy of the birth certificate for my grandma.

Have deleted my question as Carole has asked what I was going to ask...warning received!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Sadly my grandma had a total breakdown after the incident and her father took care of everything. She presumed he must have had her registered but it looks like that wasn't the case!

So does this mean you don't - didn't anyway, require a death certificate to be buried?

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:25 GMT (UK) »
If she was registerd as a stillbirth, you won't find these online.

You have to ring the GRO at Southport; explain what you want; what your relationship is to the baby; then they send you a form to fill in (by post, not email!).
You return the form (by post) and pay the £9.25.
If they agree with your request (and it's not a given) they send you the Stillbirth Certificate.

I did all this for my mum's sister's birth.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Help finding birth of ancestor who died few hours after birth
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 31 January 17 16:26 GMT (UK) »
You mention there was a post mortem.  It may possibly be that the coroner issued permission for the child to be buried which would have meant an actual death cert was unnecessary
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