Looking for James SMITH born Wellington c'1911

[kiwihalfpint]

No, I can't see a birth.   Have you sighted the death notice (for Jennie or Violet) or death printout?  Might glean something


Cheers
KHP

[Eyesee]

There is a Jeanie Smith cremation at Karori in 1958. Does that record have any further info.

Ian C

[Beg Clonrode...]

that he married a woman named ?? in Auckland and that they had a daughter

Hi Spades...

Did the descendant know the names of the wife and daughter.

Regards
Beg

[Lucy2]

It is possible that Charles Joseph SMITH was also born at Petone.

I haven't found a likely birth of a James SMITH to Jennie or Jeannie Smith, so I wonder if perhaps 'James' might have been 'Joseph'?

1911 - Charles Joseph SMITH - birth registered at Wellington (1909 - Violet Mildred SMITH reg. Petone, Wellington )

The 1958 death certificate for Jeanie SMITH is attached to one of the online trees - it records "2 x Males (ages unknown) issue of 1st marriage"  ... and "1 x Male = 47 yrs (b. 1911) and 1 x Female = 49 yrs (b. 1909) as issue of union No. 2.
Charles SMITH is recorded as husband No. 2 but where provision is made on cert. for "at what age married" - this has been left blank."

[spades]

Hi Beg,

Slip of the pen, sorry. His wife's name was Maureen, no name known for the daughter. I can't find a marriage of a James or a Charles Joseph SMITH to 1956.

Have just reviewed my notes and found a comment stating that they married in Auckland.

Hi Lucy2,

Thanks for that. Think I'm barking up the wrong tree and I should change the topic title to 'James SMITH'.

Spades

[Lucy2]

Was Jennie (Jeanie) SMITH the "widow" of John SMITH ... or Charles SMITH  ??

Local electoral rolls show, that for the years 1911 - 1914 and 1919  - Wellington Central roll,  a Jennie SMITH - residing at 11 Leeds Street (Te Aro) - was recorded as a "spinster".  ("Spinster" ... an error or deliberate ? )  [Was that same Jennie SMITH - widow - at 77 Fitzherbert Street, Petone - also in 1911 ??   And 1905-06 -Wellington East roll - married ?? ]

[The Jennie SMITH residing at 11 Leeds Street was the mother and nominated N-o-K of Leonard Andrew SMITH (s/o Jeanie and John) as per his WW1 file.   Attestation form at Image 7 doesn't mention father (John SMITH) is deceased. ]

[Lucy2]

Hi Lucy2,

Thanks for that. Think I'm barking up the wrong tree and I should change the topic title to 'James SMITH'.

Spades

... not necessarily barking up wrong tree. 

Did he simply change his name from "Charles Joseph" to "James" ??

  ~   Lu

[kiwihalfpint]

Lu,

The school record mentioned in Spade's first post, the address was 11 Leeds Street.  I am thinking they put the child's initials as the Parent/Guardian. The one for Violet Mildred Smith, admission date of 15 March 1915 for Te Aro Infants, address 11 Leeds Street, the Parent was put down as Mrs Smith.

Cheers
KHP

[Lucy2]

The only other piece of information I have found is a school record for a Charles Joseph SMITH who started at Te Aro Infants (School) on 5 July 1917, and his birthday given as 4 July 1911 (sic). His guardian was a C.J. SMITH.

NOTE: Edited to reflect new information.

So who was this child "Charles Joseph SMITH" ... in 1917 at Te Aro School

Can't account for his guardian being named as "C.J. SMITH".

*  But was there an address given for the Guardian ?

A Jennie SMITH (mother of Leonard Andrew SMITH) is living at Leeds Street ...  Te Aro - in 1917.