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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 02 March 17 23:47 GMT (UK) »
The 1888 Hobart Valuation Roll shows the co-owners of 160 Murray St as Rose Robertson and J Paton, T Paton.

These Patons also owned 118 Brisbane St (where Mrs & Misses Robertson removed to and where Elizabeth died)
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article9316073
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13303272

The Patons were plasterers/builders, 2 brothers moved to Launceston and 2 settled in Hobart
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article29221356

They arrived from Scotland on the Conway in 1855, the same trip as David Roberston
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CB7-16-1-1
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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #28 on: Friday 03 March 17 06:34 GMT (UK) »
Have found these in the burial register for St Andrew's Church burial ground Hobart Town

Margaret Robertson 1847
Jane Robertson or Scott 1855

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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #29 on: Friday 03 March 17 10:28 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much, Matthew!

Slowly, bit by bit, this is chipping away at the mystery of my Robertson family...

Yes, that's 'my' Jean/Jane Robertson (nee Scott) and her 'real' first name is anybody's guess!

The death notice for Elizabeth Robertson in 1908 not mentioning James Alexander Robertson may just be a reflection of the source of the 3/- payment for the funeral notice not knowing James Alexander Robertson...

I do note that Elizabeth Robertson acts as a fantastic link between the siblings - she was a witness at the marriage of both David Robertson in 1858 in Hobart and James Alexander Robertson in 1864 in Hobart.

It is also looking possible that 'my' James Robertson may have gone from New Norfolk to Hobart after the birth of Elizabeth in 1835 and worked for Easby & Robertson's foundry where James Robertson Snr and James Robertson Jnr (who sailed in 1832 on the 'Minerva') worked.

Due to the dates of David Robertson's birth and the date the 'Minerva' arrived in Hobart I am struggling to connect 'my' James Robertson with the fourth James Robertson named as having sailed on that ship.  I'm struggling even more to find an earlier arrival of a James Robertson in Hobart Town that could be 'my' James Robertson.  <Sigh>

I can't find a marriage between a Jane or Jean Scott and 'my' James Robertson in Tasmanian records or in Scottish records that would help me locate early records of 'my' James Robertson.  <Sigh>

Kind regards, Ken.
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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 09 March 17 03:55 GMT (UK) »
Well, it turns out even the Tasmanian Information and Research Service were unable to turn up anything for 'my' James Robertson and 'my' Jean Robertson (nee Scott) prior to 1832. 

Their only suggestion was to check in the Paracensus of 1828 (whatever that is) and 'good luck'...

<Sigh>

(Fairly sure it is 'Jean' and not 'Jane' that I am looking for - her first grandchild was given 'Jean' as a middle name even though the child's mother had 'Jane' as a middle name.)

My quest continues...

Kind regards, Ken.
Duus (Denmark & Australia),
Wright (Tasmania, Australia),
Evans (Australia),
Knipe (Australia),
Greer (Australia),
Swenson (Australia),
Severinsen (New Zealand),
Jensen (New Zealand),
Robertson (Tasmania, Australia and Scotland - New Monkland, Lanark),
Crane (Tasmania, Australia),
Leitch (Tasmania, Australia and Scotland - Paisley).

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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 07 May 17 08:41 BST (UK) »
Failure.

I have been unable to find any marriage record of James Robertson and Jean Scott which might have held a clue to the parents of either James or Jean and let me trace back any further.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:97FY-RXB    This is 'my' James and Jean but it doesn't help me go back any further into the past.

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Duus (Denmark & Australia),
Wright (Tasmania, Australia),
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Knipe (Australia),
Greer (Australia),
Swenson (Australia),
Severinsen (New Zealand),
Jensen (New Zealand),
Robertson (Tasmania, Australia and Scotland - New Monkland, Lanark),
Crane (Tasmania, Australia),
Leitch (Tasmania, Australia and Scotland - Paisley).

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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #32 on: Monday 03 July 17 01:38 BST (UK) »
Still not there yet but possibly getting closer...

'My' James Robertson was sometimes known as 'John Robertson' (as shown on his burial record, for instance).

When his son David Robertson (my great-great-grandfather) sailed back to Tasmania on the 'Conway' in 1855, the McPhee family he sailed and was listed with in the voyage documents (in the Alphabetical List of Bounty Emigrants) were sponsored by 'John Robertson'... 

A Leitch family on the same ship were also sponsored by John Robertson and one of the Leitch daughters (Mary Ann (Ella) Leitch, born after they arrived in Tasmania) married one of David Robertson's sons (my great-grandfather William Erin Robertson).

The really interesting bit from discovering this link back to Scotland is that 'John Robertson' sponsored a total of nine families and all except one sailed on the 'Conway' in 1855 (the Harper family of three sailed on the 'James Baines' clipper) - and all of these nine families had listed connections to Paisley, Renfrewshire in Scotland.

Have I finally managed to at least pin down where 'my' James Robertson came from in Scotland?  It is surely much too large a coincidence that everyone sponsored by 'John Robertson' came from the same location and that James Robertson didn't also have a connection to Paisley...

The search continues...

Ken.
Duus (Denmark & Australia),
Wright (Tasmania, Australia),
Evans (Australia),
Knipe (Australia),
Greer (Australia),
Swenson (Australia),
Severinsen (New Zealand),
Jensen (New Zealand),
Robertson (Tasmania, Australia and Scotland - New Monkland, Lanark),
Crane (Tasmania, Australia),
Leitch (Tasmania, Australia and Scotland - Paisley).

http://trove.nla.gov.au/version/230792847

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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #33 on: Monday 03 July 17 04:45 BST (UK) »
The Paracensus of 1828 isn't going to be much use unless you know they were in Australia at that stage.
Johnson & Sainty put it all into a book, years ago.  You should be able to track down a copy either at GSV or AIGS - presuming they have libraries - or even at State Library of Vic.

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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #34 on: Friday 21 July 23 06:55 BST (UK) »
It's taken me this long - but I never gave up!

"My" 5x Great-Grandfather James Robertson was born on 14th June 1801 in Raughboag (now Roughrigg), son of William Robertson and Janet Walker.

Now my research moves into Scotland and the New Monkland parish.

Who were my  7x Great-Grandparents?
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Re: Searching for early records of James Robertson
« Reply #35 on: Friday 21 July 23 10:09 BST (UK) »
Interesting thread - I'm glad you didn't give up.  :D

Are you after more information about William ROBERTSON and Janet WALKER? It may be best to post on the Scotland board. I see that there is a couple of this name married 1 Aug 1801 St Andrews and St Leonards Parish (160 / 93) and also a reference on 31 July 1801 at Leuchars Parish (10 / 396) in Fife. (on Scotland's People)
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