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Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« on: Sunday 19 February 17 05:34 GMT (UK) »
I am going mad trying to figure out the surname of Elizabeth's Hayden's mother Elizabeth. I came up with Hotchkiss but I have no idea if this is correct. The daughter was born in Laois, Ireland and I've been searching for surnames from that area in the hopes of making a match. I believe her father's name is William Heydon and that her sponsors are William or M. Donahue and B. Heydon. Can someone please have a look and see what names you can decipher? I cannot decipher the last name of the sentence either. I'm stepping back from looking at this document. Thank you for taking the time to read my message and trying to help me!

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Dunlavin, Co. Wicklow, Ireland:  Johnson, Donnelly, Lenhan/Lennan/Lennon, Heydon/Hayden

Co. Cavan, Ireland: Kiernan
Co. Sligo, Ireland: McGowan

Co. Tyrone, Ireland: Brogan, Curran, McBride, McDade, McDaid, McFadden, McFaiden, Nolan

London, England:  Smith/Smyth
Scotland: McGoun

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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 19 February 17 06:26 GMT (UK) »
Agree the father is Wm Heydon.

I tend to think it is M Donohue.  If so, that means the apparent last tall letter on the mother's surname actually belongs to the M.

I'm less sure about Heydon as the second sponsor's surname.  It looks less plausible the closer you look at the individual letters - particularly the H, y and d.

The last name I think is Grogan or Gragan.

I see the mother's surname as H-a(or maybe u)-t-c-h-?(maybe v)-?-?.

(I think we have Mary Hitchan two lines above with similar formation.)

There are one too few tall letters for Hotchkiss, in my opinion.

This document is hard going.

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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 19 February 17 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks horselydown86! I knew that Hotchkiss was a long shot but was hoping. I'm wondering if the mother's surname might not be Irish. I was hoping that the sponsor's surname was Heydon but the handwriting is so hard to decipher. I've tried reading it from every angle and zooming in and out. Taking a breather helps give me a new perspective. I'll keep trying to work it out. I appreciate a second pair of eyes. Take care!
Dunlavin, Co. Wicklow, Ireland:  Johnson, Donnelly, Lenhan/Lennan/Lennon, Heydon/Hayden

Co. Cavan, Ireland: Kiernan
Co. Sligo, Ireland: McGowan

Co. Tyrone, Ireland: Brogan, Curran, McBride, McDade, McDaid, McFadden, McFaiden, Nolan

London, England:  Smith/Smyth
Scotland: McGoun

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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 19 February 17 06:45 GMT (UK) »
Could the sponsor be J. or I. McDonahue?
Dunlavin, Co. Wicklow, Ireland:  Johnson, Donnelly, Lenhan/Lennan/Lennon, Heydon/Hayden

Co. Cavan, Ireland: Kiernan
Co. Sligo, Ireland: McGowan

Co. Tyrone, Ireland: Brogan, Curran, McBride, McDade, McDaid, McFadden, McFaiden, Nolan

London, England:  Smith/Smyth
Scotland: McGoun


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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 19 February 17 07:01 GMT (UK) »
Could the sponsor be J. or I. McDonahue?

I would say not - we run out of uprights.  If you do that the M has to be small and squeezed up.

I thought it was a similar M on the second sponsor in the line above, but have just noticed the M's in the first column are quite different.


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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 19 February 17 07:31 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again horselydown86! Hoping to get lucky! Good night!
Dunlavin, Co. Wicklow, Ireland:  Johnson, Donnelly, Lenhan/Lennan/Lennon, Heydon/Hayden

Co. Cavan, Ireland: Kiernan
Co. Sligo, Ireland: McGowan

Co. Tyrone, Ireland: Brogan, Curran, McBride, McDade, McDaid, McFadden, McFaiden, Nolan

London, England:  Smith/Smyth
Scotland: McGoun

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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 19 February 17 08:02 GMT (UK) »
If you give the date and parish, it could be found here http://registers.nli.ie/ than you can play around with the light and dark settings etc which might help to read it.

Sorry just noticed that info is at the side.

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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 19 February 17 08:19 GMT (UK) »
Just had to figure out which parish.
Killeshin.
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634490#page/4/mode/1up

The last word is Graigue, their address.
https://www.johngrenham.com/c_parish/c_parish_main.php?civilparishid=1464&county=&civilparish=Killeshin

The RC parish of Killeshin has two Civil Parishes Killeshin and Sleaty.

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Re: Can you please decipher the names on this document?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 19 February 17 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Hutcherson for the mother perhaps.

It can be useful to look at other pages to see it there are others with the same name, I think the one on July 5 on the left had page is the same, but not a great example as it's hard to see
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634490#page/3/mode/1up