any info abt James MORRISON, Ednacullo co down

[lnr]

 I have a marriage for Margaret Cairns daughter of John  to James Morrison It was at Drumlough  I think James died 1 march 1879. I would like to know any info about this family or if anyone else is researching them  Is it possible to get the actuall marriage cert. Thanks lnr

[kingskerswell]

Hi,
   PRONI has a will for your James Morrison, complete with image. However his wife is referred to as Elizabeth Ann. See http://apps.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar_IE/WillsSearch.aspx

Regards

[Elwyn Soutter]

Is it possible to get the actuall marriage cert.

You don’t say when the marriage took place.  However I assume it was probably before 1845 because James appears to have been born around 1804 and so probably married in the 1820s or 1830s.

Statutory marriage registration started for Non RC marriages in April 1845. Prior to that you won’t get a marriage certificate. What you may be able to find is a copy of the entry in the church register, if you know which church, and the records still exist. However don’t expect too much information from that sort of record. Most church registers for the 1820s and 1830s contained just the couples names, the date, their 2 witnesses and sometimes occupations and townlands. You rarely get parents name etc.

Do you know the name and denomination of the church where the marriage took place?

Given the information in the will that his wife was Elizabeth Ann, was there a second marriage? If post 1845 then there should be a civil certificate and that should give you more information.

[myluck!]

There is an 1846 marriage of a Margaret CAIRNS to Anthony MORRISON in Drumlough LINK

based on the link to the will of James MORRISON given by kingskerswell
This man was married to Elizabeth Ann at the time it was written on Feb 05 1879
He had at least six children who are named in the will as
Ellen MORRISON
James MORRISON
Agnes BAMFORD (cannot see possible marriage)
Sarah MITCHELL (poss. m. James MITCHELL Jan 25 1879 aged 25 => bc1854)
Jean GRAHAM (poss. m. Samuel GRAHAM Dec 20 1862 aged 20 => bc1841
Margaret JOHNSTON (poss. m. Thomas JOHNSTON Jan 18 1874 aged 45 => bc1829)

[BallyaltikilliganG]

I found the locations mentioned difficult to put into perspective
eg
I started with Ros Davies Co Down website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/with an entry
James   MORRISON   .   Hillsborough   of Ednacullo; died 1 Mar 1879; will probated 1882   EA/Wills  ie as noted by 

 I found no connections with Drumlough which could be in Dromore or Drumgath parish. I went down the Dromore path.  Ros Davies gives
John   CAIRNS   .   Dromore   husband of Catherin McDowell ; father of William John b. 7 Mar 1837 & Margaret Jane b. 10 May 1838 & bpt. Dromore church of Ireland   PR
Miss   Margaret KEARNS/ CAIRNS   .   Knockbreda   regd. Castlereagh; wife of Anthony Morrison; mother of Margaret b. 1865 & Anna Maria b. 1869   CR
Anthony   MORRISON   .[??m 1846 reg Hillsborough] Knockbredaregd. Ballymacarrett; husband of Margaret Kearns / Cairns ; father of Margaret b. 12 Apr 1865 & Anna Maria b. 30 Mar 1869   CR

emeraldancestors.com gives James Morrison m
a Margaret in 1857 ballymoney
a Margaret in  1859 lurgan
a Margaret in  1861 lisburn
a Margaret in  1862 more other places
I think Lisburn could have been a regional registration district so could cover Hillsborough or further afield.

then I remembered answering Cairns:Drumlough birth lookup on http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=732528.msg5776257#msg5776257

I think I stop now sorry I cant help more

[lnr]

I had a researcher some years ago and she gave me this info from the Drumlough Presbyterian church (Mic 1p/359 A1& B1 Marriages 1871-1936 very few she said 1871 Margaret CAIRNS, Drumlough, father John CAIRNS, farmer, to James MORRISON. Then underneath 1872 was my ggt grandfather William CAIRNS to Margaret ALEXANDER I have this certificate so that is why I am asking. thanks lnr

[lnr]

thanks for putting up the proni wills this is a wonderfull instrument. I have just read the will of whom i think is my gggt grandfather john Cairns (Snr) late of Drumlough co down who died 29 nov 1896 granted at Belfast to James Morrison of Enticullo Farmer It states that his daughter Margaret was married to James MORRISON thanks lnr

[gaffy]

... Is it possible to get the actuall marriage cert ...

The following website will be digitising an image of the original marriage registration to view for free at some time in the foreseeable future:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

If you can't wait for that, GRONI online has a marriage registered in Lisburn district for a couple with those names, it took place on 27 October 1871 and choosing the 'Full' viewing option will show the digitised image for £2.50:

https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

[BallyaltikilliganG]

found this today
James Morrison
mentioned in the record of Mary Jane Morrison
Name   James Morrison
Birthplace   Drumlough Dromore
Gender   Male
Wife   Jane Morrison Morrison
Daughter   Mary Jane Morrison
Other information in the record of Mary Jane Morrison
from Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name   Mary Jane Morrison
Gender   Female
Birth Date   22 Oct 1876
Birthplace   Lisburn, Down, Ireland
Father's Name   James Morrison
Father's Birthplace   Drumlough Dromore
Mother's Name   Jane Morrison Morrison
which connects Drumlough to Lisburn but not necessarily to Ednacullo
over to you all