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Re: fleshbonn
« Reply #9 on: Friday 03 March 17 19:29 GMT (UK) »
would rebeccas birth cert show the name of her father?

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 03 March 17 19:35 GMT (UK) »
would rebeccas birth cert show the name of her father?

Carole's 2nd reply suggested that it wouldn't. I would agree with her.  :-\
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 03 March 17 19:37 GMT (UK) »
thank you both

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 03 March 17 21:06 GMT (UK) »
The absence of a mothers maiden name and the marriage of her mother 3yrs later would indicate she was illegitimate
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 03 March 17 21:59 GMT (UK) »
In the Stamford Mercury, 16 Aug 1867 -

Thos EATON, foundry labourer, was charged with being the father of the illegitimate child of Eliz. FLESHBOURNE of Liquorpond-St. Mr BAILES appeared for the applicant and Mr YORK for the defendant. The Bench made an order for 1s.6d. per week. Mr YORK gave notice of appeal.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 March 17 22:30 GMT (UK) »
So - Rebecca was the illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Fleshbourne and Thomas Eaton who then married in 1870 and (hopefully) lived happily ever after ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 03 March 17 22:59 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 has a Betsy Fleshbond aged 3 living with relatives

I think her mother was Elizabeth Cousins Fleshborn/Fleshbourn who married Wardall Scupham (love his name!) in 1852

1861 census - all b Lincs

Wardale Scupham   47 no occupation b Falstone
Elizabeth Cousins Scupham   40 b East Kirkby
Elizabeth Scupham   13  (Elizabeth/Betsy Fleshbourn) b Fulstow
Charles Scupham   7 b Fulstow
James Scupham   5 b Fulstow
RG9 Piece 2392 Folio 23 Page 1
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 04 March 17 12:20 GMT (UK) »
From FreeReg:

Boston St Botolph
20 Jul 1848
Elizabeth Fleshborn daughter of Elizabeth

Residence listed as just Boston and no other details.  Her birth would appear also not to have been registered.

I agree with Carole it does look like she was daughter of Elizabeth Cousins Fleshborn, albeit her birthplace on the 1861 Census is incorrect, but why she was listed as niece with what appear to be unrelated individuals on the 1851 Census is unclear.  I wonder if she had been left with a family in Boston as the Fleshborns were a relatively prominent family. 

Elizabeth senior was the daughter of Robert Fleshborn and Sarah Holland baptised at East Kirkby 11 Feb 1821.  The Fleshborns are a distant sideline on my tree and none of the people Elizabeth junior is with on the 1851 Census are linked to them as far as I can see and I can't from a quick look see a connection with the Holland family either.  Strangely Elizabeth senior appears twice on the 1851 Census, once as Elizabeth Cousins Fleshborn with her father and two sisters, and again with both her parents as just Elizabeth, although her sister Janetta Rebecca only appears with her father on one entry.  I suppose Robert and Elizabeth managed to get enumerated in two different places.
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 04 March 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Smudwhisk

As it later transpired that Thomas Eaton was her father - perhaps they were his relatives in 1851 although wife Rebecca was nee Ingamells???
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