John Burns Death 1976

[minniehaha]

We tried.......


Minniehaha.

[minniehaha]

Hi clancam37,

You don't by any chance have a name for the father of John Burns? Any other clues to help us, such as an occupation for John?

Names of any siblings of John Burns?


Minniehaha.

[Lucy2]

Thanks very much to all who have replied.  A difficult person to find.
He may have live in the Openake area and had children Lawrence (or Laurence) and Colin.
Hope sks can help.
Regards
clancam37

Hello again clancam37

Yes, there are people who would would like to help you with this  (and it might not be as difficult as you image).   

And just a little more information from you would assist us enormously in our efforts. 

So far you've given here information for three generations ... which hints that you may have more ?

- John BURNS (a.k.a. "Jock" )
- maybe born c. 1911

- Mabel (or Mabel Sarah) - mother of John Burns

- Lawrence (Laurence) and Colin - sons of John BURNS.

- other :  May have lived at Opunake (Openake) area ?

   ~  Lu
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[Lucy2]

Hi clancam37 ... thought it might be easier for you to answer these questions - so we can help you further.

*  How do you know that John BURNS lived in New Zealand ?

*  Do you have an occupation for John BURNS  ?

*  Where was John BURNS born ?           *  And (if not 1911) what year ?

*  What do you know about his Mother, Mabel (and his father )  ?

*  How do you know about John BURNS' children  ? 

*  Can you tell us please, why you are researching or looking for John BURNS ?

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[Beg Clonrode...]

John Burns - 1976/37494

Was his Mother Mabel?

Hello...

I suspect his mother was Elizabeth...

Elizabeth King BURNS - Taruheru cemetery
http://tinyurl.com/jcovpn9

I looked up the 1976 death notice for the John BURNS - 1976/37494 that you mentioned. The notice said he had a brother James in Gisborne and a sister, the late Mary BURNETT, in Wellington.

I checked Gisborne and Wellington cemetery websites, plus the BURNETT to BURNS marriage record, and the names and ages fit the BURNS family on the following passenger list...

Auckland arrivals - 1926 - Mahana - Image 123 of 209
http://tinyurl.com/zg9fecr

Scotland's People website is the next place to visit if you want to trace this family further although, as there's no sign so far of a Mabel or Laurence/Lawrence or Colin, I'm with KHP and suspect it's a dead end.

Regards
Beg

[Lucy2]

Hi clancam

I'm guessing that the John (or Jock) you are seeking, is the man mentioned in his Mother's death notice in Tasmania - 8 July 1944. 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/26026423?searchTerm=mabel%20sarah%20burns&searchLimits=l-state=Tasmania

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

re :  John BURNS  

It does seem though that the marriage of his parents, occurred in Tasmania in the year 1914.

Marriages - Tasmania
Year :   1914
Mabel Sarah Elizabeth HAYES -- James BURNS

   ~  Lu

[Lucy2]

clamcan ... I can't see births for Tasmania (later than about 1900) :

The BURNS appear to be a Catholic family so one might expect that the son John / Jock, was born after 1914 ?

If the death notice for Mabel names her children in order of birth, then "Jock" is the eldest.

   ~  Lu

   

[clancam37]

Hi Lucy2,
Thanks for your interest.  To answer some of your questions;

Hi clancam37 ... thought it might be easier for you to answer these questions - so we can help you further.

*  How do you know that John BURNS lived in New Zealand ?  From family members.

*  Do you have an occupation for John BURNS  ?  Probably Farmer

*  Where was John BURNS born ?           *  And (if not 1911) what year ? Yes 1911

*  What do you know about his Mother, Mabel (and his father )  ?  His Mother was Mabel Sarah Elizabeth HAYES born 1881 Canterbury NZ.  Her Parents James HAYES b Tasmania and Theresa Mary O'Neill b. Dublin Ireland.

*  How do you know about John BURNS' children  ?  From Australian descendants of Mabel.

*  Can you tell us please, why you are researching or looking for John BURNS ?  Writing and researching a FT on behalf of family descendants looking for John (Jock)Burns life in New Zealand.
Thanks for any help in filling in some gaps.
Regards
clancam37

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