Cottam/Banks

[lorraineosborne]

I have a real 'Brick Wall' family here. Nothing gives a concrete answer! I have done a lot of research and am no nearer to sorting it out.
Here goes!
Joseph Rowland Cottam who dies in Rotherham 1902, was born in Wakefield around 1843 - 1847. I can't find a birth for that name but there is one for a Joseph Rowland Banks in Wakefield in 1847 which I think is one and the same! On the 1851 census in Nettleham, Lincs, I believe he is there as the son of Frances Cammack.
I sent for the birth certificate of Joseph Banks, Wakefield 1847 and it gives his father as Robert Banks and mother as Frances Banks nee 'Campbell'- born in Wakefield Union.
On the 1851 census there is also another daughter Alice E Cammack or Banks? born 1850 in Sheffield - again I can't find a birth registration. 
There are more problems further on but thought I would start with this!

Help please - Loz

[lizdb]

Have you got your Joseph Rowland Cottam on any censuses? Does he marry, if so who does he name as his father on his marriage cert?

(not spotting him on 1901 at all....)
(nor other censuses - what name does he use? Where did Wakefield as his pob come from?)

[lizdb]

I see the 1902 Rotherham death has him as Joseph Roland Cottam, and age 50, thus born about 1852.

There is also a 1900 death in Rotherham for another Joseph Roland Cottam age 0 - a son?

[lizdb]

So is this him?

1891
52 Edward Street Kimberworth
Joseph Rowland Cottam 38 labourer bn Wakefield
Elizabeth 34 bn Stockwell London
Elizabeth Jane 16 bn Weymouth Dorset
Frances Matilda 15 bn Weymouth
Joseph Rowland 13 bn Weymouth
Annie 12 bn Weymouth
Robert George 9 bn Weymouth
Henry Cassell 6 bn Kimberworth
Sarah Ellen 4 bn Kimberwroth
Edwin Cammack 2 bn Kimberworth

1901 has the addition of Selina A, 8  James A ,3,  and Elsie M 2

[lizdb]

1881 in Weymouth as you would expect

20 Park Street Weymouth
Jospeh Cottam 28 bn Wakefield
Elizabeth 24 bn Stockwell
Elizabeth S 7 bn Weymouth
Frances 5
Joseph 4
Annie 2

(so still a birth around 1853 for him)

[lizdb]

Marriage 21 Dec 1873
Melcombe regis Dorset
Joseph Rowland Cottam full age  grocer  father Robert Cottam Civil Engineer
to
Elizabeth Salter minor father James Salter carpenter
witnesses Henry Tooks or Fooks and Eliza Case or Care

[keyboard86]

Hi family in 1861?

Robert Banks 54 b Rotherham
Frances 40 b Lincoln
Joseph R 14 b Wakefield
Jane 8 b Worksop
Martha 2 b Worksop
RG09/2418/17/28
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[lorraineosborne]

Wow so quick - yes all these results are what I have found.  On the 1871 he was Joseph Rowland Cottam living in Manchester  unmarried Grocer's shopman.  So between 1861 and 1871 he changed his name from Banks to Cottam?
On his marriage certificate to Elizabeth Salter - he gives father's name as Robert Cottam and occupation 'Civil Engineer' - that seems a bit strange in those days!
On the birth certificate for Joseph Rowland Banks the father Robert Banks's occupation is 'Land Surveyor' - again seems a bit strange - in between he is an agricultural Labourer!

[keyboard86]

Hi again, possibly Martha from 1861 in 1871 census?

Alfred Cottom 62 b Lincolnshire
Amy 70 b Lincolnshire
Thurza Wakelin 20 Niece b Lincolnshire
Martha Cottom 11 Niece b Worksop
Census ref RG10/3453/67/12
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