John Wilkes/Harriet Pre-Wilkes?

[westbury]

I am trying to trace the marriage of John Wilkes born c 1822 Stafford to Harriet ? born c 1824 (Abbots) Bromley. On the Ancestry site the marriage details are "John Wilkes m Harriet Pre-Wilkes"
I have never seen this "Pre" before - does it signify something?  I have found a possible marriage in Newport, but it is one of 4 marriages that could fit the bill and I don't have Harriet's maiden name.

Thank you

[BumbleB]

Where and in what year was this supposed marriage?  I can't find anything on FreeBMD 1840-1870 with a surname Pre-Wilkes

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Westbury

If you search the GRO Index site it gives you the mothers maiden name on children therefore looking at their daughter Harriet she was born 1847 registered Newport and her mothers maiden name was Griffin

Cross checked this with John born 1849 registered Newport which also gives the maiden name of Griffin

FreeBMD 1846 Newport John Wilkes same page Harriet Griffin

Hope this helps

Willow x

[BumbleB]

Doh - found the source - an Ancestry tree!!!! 

[Willow 4873]

Lol 

Willow x

[Willow 4873]

5.10.1846 All Saints Forton John Wilkes of Sutton father Thomas to Harriet Griffin of Eccleshall father George

Willow x

[trish1120]

1851 we have in Staffs;
John Wilkes, 29, Head, Mar, Schoolmaster, born Stafford
Harriet Wilkes, 27, Wife, Mar, born
Harriet Wilkes, 3
John Wilkes, 2
Anna A Wilkes, 1mth

1861 in Cheshire;
John Wilkes, 40, Head, Widr, Schoolmaster, born Staffordshire, Stafford
Harriet Wilkes, 13, Daug
John Wilkes, 12, Son
Jane Avarne Wilkes, 9, Daug
ANN Wilkes, 70, Mother to Head of Family, Widow, born Staffordshire, Stafford

Baptism;
JOHN Wilkes, 3 April 1822, St Mary, Stafford, Staffordshire
Parents THOMAS/ANN, Fathers Occp Shoemaker

Siblings;
BELINDA 22 March 1817, buried 24 April 1817 age 5 weeks
MARY ANN 30 Sept 1818
JOSEPH 28 May 1825

I cant find a Marriage for Thomas/Ann at this stage or any more Children to them.

There is also this Burial same Church;
JAMES 27 Sept 1812, Son of Thomas/Ann

MARY ANN Wilkes married Thomas ALLEN 15 July 1838 St Mary, Father THOMAS, Occp Cordwainer (Shoemaker)

All above on FreeREG.

You would nee the 1846 M/C to establish Johns Father Thomas's Occp.

Trish

[westbury]

Thank you all so much for your help. Griffin was the connection I suspected, but must confess haven't used FreeREG - am out of practice I'm afraid. Will have to start catching up on the sources available, also the tip about GRO index - very useful. I know Ancestry is perhaps not the favourite site but if you trawl and check results it can be useful. Still can't work out the "Pre-Wilkes" though. Once again - thanks to all.

[stitchwitch]

Thank you all so much for your help. Griffin was the connection I suspected, but must confess haven't used FreeREG - am out of practice I'm afraid. Will have to start catching up on the sources available, also the tip about GRO index - very useful. I know Ancestry is perhaps not the favourite site but if you trawl and check results it can be useful. Still can't work out the "Pre-Wilkes" though. Once again - thanks to all.

When you say you first found the connection on Ancestry, do you mean it was on someone else's tree, or in one of the indexes?