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Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« on: Friday 17 March 17 01:12 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

If anyone could help me unravel this it would be much appreciated.
Names involved Randulphi Poynton (deceased) of Norton on the Moors.
Meare Poynton his daughter.
Jane or Janae Poynton his wife.

Many thanks,

Donna

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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #1 on: Friday 17 March 17 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Testam(en)tu(m) Ranulphi Poynton dum vixit p(ar)ochie
Norton in Le Mores def(uncti) p(er) Meare Poynton filia(m)
unu(m) Execut(orum) iurat(am) ut supra &c. Reservat(a) p(otes)tate
Jane Poynton Relict(e) alteri Exec(utorum) cu(m) ven(er)it &c.


The will of Ralph Poynton, whilst living of the parish in Norton-in-the-Moors, deceased, by Meare Poynton, the daughter, one of the executors, sworn as above etc. Power reserved to Jane Poynton, the relict, the other executor, when she will come etc.

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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #2 on: Friday 24 January 20 18:09 GMT (UK) »
Meare was a son not a daughter
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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 January 20 02:56 GMT (UK) »
In the actual will of Randall Poynton 1625, 'Meare Poynton' is definitely given as 'my sonne' at least half a dozen times. He inherits leases on parcels of land.
Randall Poynton is of Baddeley in the parish of Norton in the Moors.

Meare Poynton is mentioned twice in this clip from the will - the last time as executor along with Randall's wife Jane.

(I have a copy of this will as one of my ancestors married a Poynton - unfortunately not mentioned in this will though).

Is it possible the word squeezed in at the end of the line in the probate could be son instead of daughter Bookbox?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 January 20 03:11 GMT (UK) »
I have done a lot of scouring of records from Norton in the Moors Donna.
I don't know how much you have done.

Manorial documents for Norton in the Moors are not easy to search as different parts of land belonged to different manors.
I can let you have some more information if you're interested.

There is an interesting item about leases in the Rent Rolls for Norton in the Moors in 1608 for Richard Meare and Randulph Poynton at 'Badyley', and John Meare is also mentioned.
I can send you the clipping if you want.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 January 20 03:46 GMT (UK) »
Goldie, did you see the date of the original request and first reply?

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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 January 20 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible the word squeezed in at the end of the line in the probate could be son instead of daughter Bookbox?

Yes indeed. The contraction obscures the word ending and therefore the gender, but the word that follows is masculine, unu(m). Unfortunately I too hastily took my cue from Donna's first post, which refers to Meare as a daughter. Apologies to all.

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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 January 20 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Goldie, did you see the date of the original request and first reply?

Did I miss something HD? I don't understand this comment. Probably me!  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Help deciphering 1625 Probate
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 26 January 20 04:44 GMT (UK) »
Goldie, did you see the date of the original request and first reply?

Did I miss something HD? I don't understand this comment. Probably me!  :)

I thought you may have been unaware that you were writing informative posts on a near three-year-old thread, when it seemed probable (to me) that the OP will never read them.  I simply thought you may have wanted to save your time - at least until the OP had revisited the thread.

I apologize that my understanding of the situation was wrong.