John Lindop and Hannah Wyse

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There is no indication on John Lindop's Death Certificate of a previous marriage but it is entirely possible.  I must look into the birth of little Gertrude Warrilow born in Glasgow in 1870 from the 1871 census. Gertrude Elizabeth born in Stoke on Trent in 1875 died in Glasgow of Phthisis, aged 19, and Albert born in 1880 married in Glasgowand died there in 1946. 

I want to thank each of you for all this information and your interest.  isk

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Gertrude Warrillow
Birth     18 Oct 1869, Central District, Glasgow
Father:    William Warrillow
Mother:    Elisabeth Lindop

sadly I think she may have died in 1871 - registered as Mary Gertrude

the Warrillows  do seem to be regulars in scotland. Here's 1881 - 3 entries away from John and Hannah Lindop, with the 3 younger children all born Glasgow.

Elizth. Warrilow    33 - married, b Crewe
John Warrilow    13
Arthur Warrilow    9
Elizth. Warrilow    7
Olive Warrilow    1

RG11, 2731, 32, 2

1891 - 60 Albert St, Glasgow

William Warrilow    44 - pottery cratemaker b England
Elizth L Warrilow    43
John Warrilow    23
Arthur Warrilow    19
Levia Warrilow    12
Frank Warrilow    2 - son b Glasgow
Nellie D Warrilow    7 Mo - daughter b Glasgow
Sarah D Warrilow    19 - daughter in law

This helped me find William in 1881 - a visitor in Glasgow. I guess somehow he;s been recruited from the Staffordshire potteries to some in Glasgow?

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Once again very many thanks for your interest.  I will follow the Scottish records next week at the Genealogy Centre in Glasgow. isk

[Annette7]

Census states John Lindop bc.1825 Burslem, Staffordshire.

His baptism is on familysearch but his father was not a John.

John Lindop bp.1/2/1824 Burslem, Staffordshire, son of Joshua and Elizabeth.

Parents marriage - Joshua Lindop married Elizabeth Talbot 18/4/1808 Dawley Magna, Shropshire

Children: William 1808 Newcastle under Lyme, Staffs.
              Samuel 1810           ditto
              Sarah 1812             ditto
              Mary 1814     Burslem, Staffs.
              Ann 1819          ditto
              Joshua 1821      ditto
              John 1/2/1824   ditto
Full date of baptisms on familysearch.

Annette

[Annette7]

1851 Census - Stoke upon Trent, Staffs.

Joshua Lindop   64     Engine Fitter        born Wrexham, Denbighshire
Elizabeth Lindop   64
John Lindop son   27   marr.   Engine Fitter    born Burslem, Staffordshire
Eliza Lindop  25   dau. in law                         born Hanley, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Lindop 3  granddaughter                 born Crewe, Cheshire

Three year old Elizabeth's birth on GRO Index shows mothers maiden name as Pope.

John Lindop married an Eliza Pope  5/8/1844 Stoke on Trent and certificate (on FindMyPast) confirms his father was Joshua and hers was Richard Pope.   However, his other children with Eliza show their mmn as Simpson!    Did this first Eliza die and he remarried to another Eliza (or not - I cannot find a marriage to an Eliza Simpson).    A mystery to unravel for you.

Annette

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Annette, thank you for this.  Isn't it always the same, one answer just leads to another question, but that may be why we do this.  I am grateful for your help.  isk 🙂 🙂

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Did this first Eliza die and he remarried to another Eliza (or not - I cannot find a marriage to an Eliza Simpson).    A mystery to unravel for you.

William, the youngest on 1861 has mmn Pope!

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Looks like Eliza's fater went under two surnames

Baptisms in the Wesleyan Chapel, Hanley

John Pope    
Baptism    7 Jun 1818
Father   Richard Pope, potter
Mother Hannah Chetwin

George Simpson    
Baptism    16 Nov 1819

Thomas Simpson    
Baptism    6 Apr 1823    [born October 1822]

Dinah Simpson    
Baptism    6 Apr 1823

Father    Richard Simpson, potter
mother Hannah, daughter of Joseph and Dinah Chetwin

In a different collection, but presumably the same couple

Eliza Simpson
Baptism     10 May 1825, Hanley
Father:    Richard Simpson
Mother:    Hannah

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Married as Pope

Richard Pope
Hannah Chetwin
Marriage    17 Aug 1817, Norton In The Moors, Stafford

wonder if this is a sibling of Richard's?

Eliza Simpson Pope
Marriage    8 Sep 1833, Hanley
Spouse:    Joseph Ogden