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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #333 on: Friday 21 April 17 08:39 BST (UK) »
Wivenhoe what have you found !!!???

Are you a magician? what rabbit have you pulled out of the Blair hat??
Just as the Blair Dragon's fire was nearly out and done ... this!

What even made you look for Georgina's son in Qld?
You certainly think outside the square. Great find and I have to go out now.!!
Probably can't get back until Sunday morning now.

One thing I'm thrilled about is they kept in touch. I thought and was hoping so
when she said on her MC what work he was doing. It was too close for a guess.
I'm soooo  ...... pleased.
Made my day.

Thanks.♥


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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #334 on: Friday 21 April 17 08:48 BST (UK) »
An arrival.
1911
H G BAMBER. Aged 31. Mariner. Born England. Intending permanently to live in Aust.
Ship, Runic. Departing Liverpool. To Sydney.

The attestation papers for George BAMBER show his mother's address as
17 Sylvania Road, ?   ?   , Liverpool, England.

His father was Mr P BAMBER.

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #335 on: Friday 21 April 17 09:17 BST (UK) »
Adding further to Wivenhoe's good find, the deaths of Paterson and Georgina.


Deaths Dec 1932   

BAMBER  Georgina L
Aged 81
At  W.Derby
8b 336

Deaths Jun 1924
 
BAMBER   Paterson J   
Aged 73
At W.Derby
8b 537


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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #336 on: Friday 21 April 17 09:32 BST (UK) »
A sad end, I think for Henry Gordon BAMBER, Second Officer. 1922.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/217093931

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #337 on: Friday 21 April 17 09:48 BST (UK) »
Here are some more births which seem to be to Georgina and her husband.

BAMBER, Alison  Elizabeth
Mother   BLAIR     
1875  Dec Quarter
WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK
08B/ 468    

BAMBER, Edith Jane     
Mother   BLAIR
1879  Dec Quarter
WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK
08B /514    

BAMBER, Caroline
Mother   BLAIR     
1885  Dec Quarter
WEST DERBY 
08B /499    

BAMBER, Lily Agnes
Mother   BLAIR     
1889  Sept Quarter
WEST DERBY
08B /452    

BAMBER, Arthur   
Mother   BLAIR   
1887  Mar Quarter
WEST DERBY
08B / 425    

BAMBER, Edward     
Mother   BLAIR    
1883  Dec Quarter
WEST DERBY
08B /457    

BAMBER, Frederick  Paterson     
Mother   BLAIR   
1878  Mar Quarter
WEST DERBY AND TOXTETH PARK
08B /478

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #338 on: Friday 21 April 17 09:56 BST (UK) »
Well Found Wivenhoe  :)

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=3047764
80 plus pages of WWI service file.

ADD, Alas,  :( I did not notice anything in the file to suggest he had contact with the BLAIR family in Qld. 

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #339 on: Friday 21 April 17 10:14 BST (UK) »
I think it is interesting that the death record for Henry Gordon BAMBER names his mother, with her family name.

If the record was informed by his employer, eg  from staff records, it might name a next of kin  ie his father, but hardly his mother's full name. This certificate would be interesting to see.

Who gave this information?. Unless his employers made more effort to find his family than they did to find him (on Thursday Island).

Otherwise, I suspect that the appearance of George certainly, and Henry possibly, is just the movement of adventurous men to the colonies, and independent of the BLAIRs being there.

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #340 on: Friday 21 April 17 10:29 BST (UK) »
I think the chap overboard off Thursday Island must have been found alive, for  :-[  :-[  :-[  EDIT TO MAKE BOLD RED AND TO STRICK THROUGH.... JM confused the two brothers...  :-X

the AIF papers show a letter 6 June 1952 from NSW Public Trustee re death at Concord Repat Hospital (Sydney NSW) for George BAMBER, 4398 who died 12 May 1952. 
 :-\ HOWEVER, ..... NAA files have been found to sometimes have flaws.... (page 39 of 81)   
 :-\ So, perhaps there's one here too....   Page 38 has Bamber G of 53rd Battn with reg no. 4358  (not 4398 as at page 39).   
  :-\ Page 8 has altered that service no. from 4658 to 4358..... (discharging a George Bamber in Feb 1916 'unlikely to become an efficient soldier') ....  and
  :-\ page 1 has also been altered from 4658 to 4358....

 :-\  :-\  :-\ And to complicate it further ....
 :-X NSW BDM has the 1952 death indexed as though that George was aged 44 years. (#12746)

family history searching is not meant to be this difficult ......

Trove has
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18264748 14 May 1952 Sydney Morning Herald.  Two funeral announcements for him, including one from the Disabled Soldiers Association, for their esteemed member, George BAMBER, 1st AIF.

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Re: Gordon Blair - Mystery? or Not!
« Reply #341 on: Friday 21 April 17 10:31 BST (UK) »
NSW State Archives has a Probate file for George BAMBER
Series 4-392630  Date of Death 12 May 1952, Granted on 31 July 1952 

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Intestate
George Bamber, late of Concord, formerly of Dawes Point, NSW ..... Ship's Cook
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/18276820 8 August 1952 SMH

Almost every photo of the Sydney Harbour Bridge would include Dawes Point.  It is where the south Pylon sits. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Point,_New_South_Wales

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