Williams in Wales

[Amy149]

I've been doing my family tree ans I've hit ab it of a road block....

my great grandmother Louisa Gwynne Williams born 1887 and her 2 sisters (Margaret and Mary Jane) where apparently orphaned at an early age, but we cannot seem to find out what happened to their parents (mother Louisa and father Henry).

We know they lived at Cwmllethryd Fawr Farm with his family for a while but then the whole family seems to disappear and i cant seem to make sense of it. if anyone could help it would be much appreciated.

Amy

[Gadget]

Hi Amy and Welcome to Rootschat 

Is Cwmllethryd Fawr Farm  the one in Carmarthenshire?

Gadget

[Amy149]

hi,

yeah that's the one, they all seem to be there until about 1871 then I can't seem to track them.

[osprey]

is this the family in 1881?

Cwmllethryd Uchaf Farm, Westfa, Llanelly RG11/5375 folio 66 pg4
Henry Williams head mar 32 farmer of 61 acres
Louisa wife 27 b. Llanon
Mary J daughter 1
Margaret dau 7 months
Elizabeth Bowen servant 16 b. Llanon
all born Llanelly except where noted

possible marriage
Henry Williams & Louisa White both on march qtr 1878 Llanelly vol 11a pg 720

[keyboard86]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat, to give us some guidance is this the family in 1881 census:-

Henry Williams 32 occ Farmer of 61 acres b Llanelly
Louisa 27 b Llanon
Mary J 1 b Llanelly
Margaret A 7 months b Llanelly
Residing at Cwmllethryd Uchal Farm, Llanelly
Census Ref RG11/5375/66/4

Henry Williams 27 occ Farmer Father William Williams
Louisa White 22 Father David White
22nd March 1878 Dafen
Henry was residing at Cwmllethryd Uchal Farm, and Louisa at Goitre Fawr in the parish of St Marys, Swansea.

So when was Louisa G born?
Keyboard86


OK if correct just given marriage as seen red writing!!

[osprey]

notice of liquidation from 17 March 1880

http://newspapers.library.wales/view/3509360/3509367/56/cwmllethryd

[Amy149]

Thats all really helpful,  Thank you and that newspaper article is really interesting but I'm struggling to see what happened to them from then, because the family story is that the 3 girls where sent to live with an aunt who treated them like slaves but I cant seem to find deaths to match Henry and louisa to explain why this would have happened.

[Gadget]

Could this be the three girls in 1891:

Monmouth
RG12/4342/38/3
William Williams, widower, 37, Waggoner
Mary J, d, 11
Margret Anne, d, 10
Louisa, d. 3

All born Llanelly.

Not sure as the girls are down as William's daughters. Did Henry have a brothe called William?

Gadget

[Amy149]

The ages are a little bit different but I've found they can be with these records. yes Henry does have a brother William, so this could definitely be correct but what happened to their parents? why are they with their uncle?