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Where did they disappear to?
« on: Friday 21 April 17 10:35 BST (UK) »
On the 1871 census I have found James;

James Williams age 25
Catharine Williams wife age 25
Catharine Williams age 11 months daughter
Mary Edwards age 14

James was born in 1845, parents James and Mary farmers
In 1861 James is living at home
None of James's siblings (including himself) births were registered but all baptised.

Can find no marriage for James and Catharine or birth reg for daughter.  After 1871 James, wife Catharine and daughter seem to have disappeared

Any help would be appreciated, one reason being I would like to order a marriage certificate to check I have the right James and who he married.

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Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 April 17 10:49 BST (UK) »
How about some place names?

Where were they living in 1871?

Where were they born?

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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 21 April 17 10:55 BST (UK) »

James Williams is a Farmer of 233 acres emplying 4 men and a boy

He was born in Almondsbury, Glos

Catherine (born Slep Suldon, Glos).... 

daughter Catharine born Sydney


? Did James father leave a Will

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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 21 April 17 11:01 BST (UK) »
Census ref to avoid duplicate searching:  RG10/5296/49/10
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 21 April 17 11:23 BST (UK) »
Catherine Maude Mabel Williams married William Williams in Oswestry 8 June 1898. Father John Robert Williams.

Sister Jessie Eliza Cecilia Williams (born Chepstow 1872) married James Walter reading in Bristol 20 April 1904. Father John Robert Williams
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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 21 April 17 11:32 BST (UK) »
Wrong family?

John Robert Williams married Catherine Emma Poole on 6 Feb 1869 at Bitton St Mary, Gloucestershire. His father Edwin Williams. Her father Henry Poole
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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 21 April 17 11:33 BST (UK) »
Looks like from your replies that we have 2 different families.  The James Williams I am researching was born in Olveston from a farming family.  Not sure what happened to him after 1861 until I came across the 1871 census.  A bit confused about the Catharine's marriage in 1898, its the daughter this marriage refers to, if so wrong father unless James altered his name to John.  I have looked at the FreeBMD for a marriage with no luck also for a birth reg for daughter Catharine on both FreeBMD and GRO Record site.

helina

Austin,Bistol
Coole,Bristol
Lewis, Bristol
Williams,Olveston
Howard,Bristol
Shepherd Admonsbury.
Tinney, Plymouth.
Ogborn,Bristol.
Blore.Derbyshire,Bristol,Redditch.
Richards,Bristol
Milson, Bitton
Harrison, Derbyshire
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Re: Where did they disappear to?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 21 April 17 11:38 BST (UK) »
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John Robert Williams (father: Edwin)
married
Catherine Emma Poole (father : Henry)

6 February 1869 at Bitton St Mary


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Both Catherine Maud Mabel and Jessie Eliza Cecilia's baptism are on the Forest of Dean records

residence: The Hunt Farm


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This couple are on the 1891 census, Oswestry, Shropshire with their family  (Catharine, born Staple Hill)

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 21 April 17 11:42 BST (UK) »
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I have looked at the FreeBMD for a marriage with no luck also for a birth reg for daughter Catharine on both FreeBMD and GRO Record site.

Catherine Maud Mabel Williams birth is on both Free BMD and the GRO site

Chepstow Q3 1870  Volume 11A  Page 13
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