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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 07:36 BST (UK) »
I'm confused about what's causing the confusion  ???

Two organisations have two separately indexed databases for the same set of data. They could be compared (if either party made their databases available to the other) and those with a difference in ages noted.

Quite what either of them does with that information is a different matter
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 07:54 BST (UK) »
If in doubt purchase a certificate, that would solve all problems

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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 10:00 BST (UK) »
If in doubt purchase a certificate, that would solve all problems

... or raise new ones ...  :D
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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 11:52 BST (UK) »
I'm confused about what's causing the confusion  ???

Two organisations have two separately indexed databases for the same set of data. They could be compared (if either party made their databases available to the other) and those with a difference in ages noted.

Quite what either of them does with that information is a different matter

But only for the deaths after 1866. 
Before that, FreeBMD does not show ages as these were not given on the old GRO indexes that were available.
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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 13:17 BST (UK) »
But only for the deaths after 1866. 
Before that, FreeBMD does not show ages as these were not given on the old GRO indexes that were available.
Yes, that's the problem, there is no source other than the new GRO death index for pre 1866 death ages. I just checked five different infant deaths in the new GRO index pre and post 1866, and the figure in all cases must be days, weeks or months not years as stated, but no way of telling which other than getting the certificate.

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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 14:23 BST (UK) »
But only for the deaths after 1866. 
Before that, FreeBMD does not show ages as these were not given on the old GRO indexes that were available.
Yes, that's the problem, there is no source other than the new GRO death index for pre 1866 death ages. I just checked five different infant deaths in the new GRO index pre and post 1866, and the figure in all cases must be days, weeks or months not years as stated, but no way of telling which other than getting the certificate.

If you know were they were living, burial  records invariably give the ages of children, and sometimes ages of adults too.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 18:13 BST (UK) »
If you know were they were living, burial  records invariably give the ages of children, and sometimes ages of adults too.
Yes, true! Lot's now online on ancestry and findmypast. Obviously usually won't give cause of death, informant present at death etc.

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Re: New GRO pilot birth and death indexes - discover lost children - mortality rates
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 25 April 17 21:09 BST (UK) »
If you know were they were living, burial  records invariably give the ages of children, and sometimes ages of adults too.
Yes, true! Lot's now online on ancestry and findmypast. Obviously usually won't give cause of death, informant present at death etc.

Sorry, but that's where it now comes to the crunch and you will have to actually pay for the information for each of the individuals from the ultimate source - GRO certificates   :'( :'(
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