Clark Family Orsett, Thurrock, Essex

[Annette7]

I know my own father (born 1920) was a twin and the other had died in the womb.   There is nothing on my fathers own birth certificate to even indicate this.

Annette

[louisa maud]

Possible death of Fred 1972 but date of birth given as 11/12/1908 so not 100% sure, death Thurrock

Son Frederick A G died 1986 born 19/11/1930 death Barking
Son Alan Gary died 1976 born 28/12/1933 death Havering


Louisa Maud

[Annette7]

From what I can see Frederick Henry Clark married a Doris Stephenson Mar.qtr.1930 Orsett but she must have been either a widow or divorced.   Her surname appears to have been mistranscribed sometimes on childrens births:

Doris Beetson b.25/12/1902 (birth reg'd Mar.1903 Prestwich, Lancashire, d.1969 Thurrock) married a William J. Stephenson Jun.1919 Prestwich and at least 1 son Ronald born 6/5/1924 Prestwich, d.1990 Thurrock.   By 1930 Doris and her son are in Essex where she marries Frederick Henry Clark - children found:

Frederick A G b.19/11/1930, d.1986 - mmn Beatson
Colin b.1932, d.2002 - mmn Beetson
Alan Gary born 28/12/1933, d.1976 - mmn Beetson
Possible dau. (probably still living)  born 1937 - mmn Bettson

Annette

[louisa maud]

Walter Clark death 1993 Thurrock only gives a Christian name of Walter, born 11/08/1914

LM

Added
Ancestry ER's
1937
9 Quinns Bldgs Popham St Islington
Maud Clark
Walter
Rhoda

Louisa Maud

[louisa maud]

We haven't yet discovered if Walter was a sibling to William yet, have we?

If Walter on London ER's is the son of Rhoda Clark then perhaps he wasn't related, I have tried to look for marriages of a  Rhoda to a Clark, so far have come up with 4 1901-1905
maiden names 
Ovel
Blackman
Hedge
Morrell

I then found a Walter born 1914 with mothers maiden name  Ovel

Still looking

Louisa Maud

[joanearls]

Thank you all for your help.
Walter(Wal) Clark was definitely a sibling of William.
Joan

[louisa maud]

Strange we can't find a registration that fits

LM

[Annette7]

Think I've found 'Walter' and that he was actually Alfred Charles Clark - he was born 15/9/1907 (one of the ones whose mmn shown as Brown rather than Ayling).

Birth is as Alfred Charles, marriage is as Alfred C. Clark to Violet M. Scott in 1930 Gravesend, Kent - Violet was Violet Maud Scott b.30/1/1910 and a Kent lass.

By 1939 Alfred Charles and Violet Maud are living in Essex in the same area as his family but at some point they clearly returned to Kent where they both subsequently died.

Violet Maud Clark b.30/1/1910 died in 1991 Gravesend, Kent

Alfred Walter C. Clark b.15/9/1907, died May 1993 Gravesend, Kent

I would imagine that for whatever reason Alfred Charles was known as Walter and that whoever notified his death (2 years after his wife died) incorporated that into his name.

Annette

[louisa maud]

Wow Annette, why on earth was he called Walter

I am not sure I believe that Walter E D belonged to Albert and Rose anyway as this Walter was born in Islington to another  with maiden name Ovel, he is living with his mother Rhoda and sister Maud in Middleton Bldgs Islington 1930's

Like you I have spent a long time on this getting nowhere whilst you,  hopefully have  cracked it, good detective work Annette.

Louisa Maud