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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #9 on: Monday 15 May 17 11:20 BST (UK) »
Have you tried looking for him on the Casualty Lists on FindMypast?  It could be these are references to those lists.
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 May 17 15:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Skoyen89
I have quite a lot of imformation of the casualty already but I will look on FindMyPast as you suggest. There might be a clue about the meaning of GCL/CCL or whatever the abbreviation is.
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 May 17 15:56 BST (UK) »
Hi RRTB

There is not an awful lot in these records but I attach clips of the movements and promotions sections where the abbreviation occurs.

Thanks for your continuing interest

Pete
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #12 on: Monday 15 May 17 17:15 BST (UK) »
I don't think there are any RAF casualty lists on FindMyPast.
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 May 17 09:13 BST (UK) »
Hi          Skoyen89

I'm understand the FindMyPast  RAF casualty lists are all pre WW2
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 01:47 BST (UK) »
Just read this bit of info about No 487 RNZAF Squadron:

" o 487 Squadron RNZAF was formed at Feltwell, Norfolk on the 15th August 1942 as a day bomber unit flying Venturas. It became operative in December 1942 with raids over the Netherlands, contributing 16 Venturas to the raid on the Philips factory at Eindhoven. A Ramrod raid (which must continue regardless of losses) against Amsterdam on the 3rd of May 1943 resulted in the loss of ten out of eleven aircraft. After this massive disaster, No 487 was transferred to 2nd Tactical Air Force on 1st June 1943, receiving Mosquito FB VIs. The squadron took part in the raid on Amiens prison enabling the escape of over 100 Resistance prisoners, and it destroyed Gestapo headquarters at Aarhus and Copenhagen."

I wonder if the "FB" in brackets after the word "missing" is anything to do with the Mosquito type?

The other part "War Cas NE Accts" I think might be War Casualty Northern Europe Accounts? It would appear that No 487 Squadron was based in France at Rosières-en-Santerre from December 1944 (Wikipedia) so one can assume that our man was in France when posted as "Missing" judging by the January 1945 date.

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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 09:07 BST (UK) »
There was only one Bomber Command aircraft lost on 22 January 1945, one of 76 Mosquitos on a bombing raid to Kassel. This aircraft was from 487 Squadron. 
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 09:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks both for this information. I know quite a lot about the pilot and aircraft and the raid. I was just intrigued by the GCL or whatever stamp used twice in his records.

I think FB refers to fighter bomber - the a/c were Mosquito FBVIs.

I also thought the other abbreviation could be War Casualty Northern European accounts.

I will ask RAF museum if they know what GCL means and report back.
Walker- Tideswell  DBY
Conboy - Greagh LET
Wilson - Bradfield WRY
Prior  - LET
Sanderson - WRY
Graham - GLS
Such - GLS
Moffatt - LND
Hudson - KEN DOR
Prebble - KEN
Ling - SFK
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Re: Abbreviation in RAF service record 1941/45
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 17 May 17 19:56 BST (UK) »
I just had a good look at the two instances on your pictures and one looks more like CCL, the other more like GCL!

It will be interesting to see what the RAF Museum comes back with, but if it's GCL then maybe it's Group Casualty List like you suggested, Walkerpete.

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