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John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi

I am trying o help a friend find the birth of his Granddad John Paul Metcalf who died around 2000 aged 92. He married a Gladys Coventry in 1939 in the Edmonton RD, which would have made him 31 when he married.

I found a John P Metcalfe with an E born 1908 which would fit and I wondered if someone with access to Census Records might be able to find this man and let me know who his parents were.

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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:38 BST (UK) »
Do you know if he had a younger brother Sidney James?

There is a birth for him in Islington Mar 1910 mothers maiden name Syrett.

Having trouble finding the one for John Paul to cross check  :-\

The marriage certificate for John to Gladys should give his fathers name otherwise it's a bit stab in the dark.

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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:40 BST (UK) »
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if someone with access to Census Records

Somebody born 1908 would only be on the 1911 census and Rootschat does not allow info to be posted

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355486.0.html

You can now obtain his mothers maiden name using the info from freebmd and the GRO website

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

That info will help you determine his parents marriage
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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:46 BST (UK) »
The only John Paul Metcalf death I can find was 6.2.2005 Enfield Middlesex and he was born 20.11.2013 so was 91

He left a will    https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:48 BST (UK) »
Something a little odd about it I think - there is a note that the birth was registered late and a corresponding entry in 1928  ???

Possibly parents married after he was born?  Mothers name Triplow.

Marriage 1914 Edmonton
Henry C Metcalfe
Catherine S E Triplow

However that could be John Philip Metcalfe Triplow born Islington 1908 and not your John Paul at all although the names are rather similar.
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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 May 17 22:57 BST (UK) »
Gladys Nora Coventry (Metcalf) was born 26.7.1915 and died 23.2.2007 Enfield.  She also left a will
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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 May 17 23:08 BST (UK) »
No John P Metcalf birth reg 1912-1914

Have you looked for them on the 1939 register as they were married by then
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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #7 on: Monday 15 May 17 10:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Carole and Millipede

I dont have access to the 1939 Register, but I did see in the Findmypast list a John Paul in Tottenham wondered if either of you could check and find any other occupants of the house as I wondered if they might be living with his parents.

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Re: John Paul Metcalf born c1908 in North London
« Reply #8 on: Monday 15 May 17 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hi David,

Unfortunately we are not able to conduct 1939 look ups.

However by doing a free search on the 1939 you will be able to see that there is a Gladys N Metcalf born 1915 living in Tottenham with Arthur C Coventry and 5 more people, 1 more person's record is closed.

Having played around with the above details there is a John P Metcalf born 1913 living in Tottenham with Arthur C Coventry  and 5 more people, 1 more person's record is closed.

So this should be your John P Metcalf but recording his birth year as 1913.

JJ