Mensforth and Laurence (Lawrence)

[cando]

Do you need anything else from the SA indexes?

Cando

[CHERAN]

Could you possibly check date of Ellen's death in 1947.... and if Ellen and Albert had any other children other than

Esther Winifred Eliza Lawrence born 4 July 1898.....
 

[rosball]

Ellen's death notice

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article55892377

Ros

adding : this one gives children
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article35985941

[cando]

Could you possibly check date of Ellen's death in 1947.... and if Ellen and Albert had any other children other than

Esther Winifred Eliza Lawrence born 4 July 1898.....
 

LAWRENCE Ellen  72 years  Status Married  Relative Albert Francis Calvary LAWRENCE [Husband]
5 Jul 1947
Residence Brooklyn Park   Death Place Brooklyn Park  Ade 714/2956

Ellen and Albert are buried at West Terrace Cemetery
http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/Records

I'll do the others later.  Being called

Cando

[CHERAN]

Thanks.....
 

[judb]

Probable baptism for Edward:
at St Barnabas church, Liverpool, 9 January,1848
Edward MAINSFORTH, son of Edward (labourer) and Ellen, of Falkner St, Windsor.  The street is still on Googlemap but with modern housing.

From the image of the marriage record:

21 Apr 1867,  All Saints Church, Moxley, Staffordshire, by banns
Edward MENSFORTH, 20, bachelor, occ: turner, father: Edward MENSFORTH, tire(?)-blocker
Esther BAILEY, 17, spinster, father: William BAILEY, moulder
Both give their place of residence as Wednesbury, both sign
Witnesses: Thomas SMITH, Sarah SMITH

(The reason some records are showing West Bromwich is because it was the registration district for Wednesbury)

1851 at Hop St, West Derby - birthplaces as 1861
Edward MENSFORTH   35, blacksmith
Ellen MENSFORTH   36
John MENSFORTH   10
Henry MENSFORTH   8
Edward MENSFORTH   3
Martha MENSFORTH   10 Mo


1861 census shows at Dudley St, Wednesbury
Edward MENSFORTH 44, railway wheel tyre blocker, b North Shields, Northumberland
Ellen MENSFORTH 45, b Liverpool, Lancashire
John MENSFORTH 20, fitter and turner (can't read name of employer), b Wavertree (Liverpool)
Edward MENSFORTH   13, fitter and turner (can't read name of employer) b Liverpool
Martha MENSFORTH   10, scholar, b Liverpool
Thomas MENSFORTH   3, b Wednesbury

In 1871 Edward and Ellen and children Elizabeth 3, and Joseph 1, are at 36 Russell St,  Wednesbury. Edward is unemployed and listed as 'son-in-law' to Elizabeth POWELL, head of the household, widow, grocer.

Judith

[CHERAN]

Thanks Judith

Now have to work out the Mother in Law Elizabeth Powell as I have Edward's jun parents as Edward & Ellen (nee Boardman) and their wedding is about 1839 in Liverpool....

[judb]

Edward MENSFORTH who went to Australia was the son of Edward and Ellen MENSFORTH -  will have a look for their marriage.

Edward is son-in-law to Elizabeth POWELL thus Elizabeth POWELL is Ellen's mother not Edward's.

Will write up Ellen's details shortly.

Judith

[CHERAN]

Thanks Judith.....  I hope I didn't mislead you   It is Edward & Ellen in liverpool I was worried about so will love seeing how you work Ellen's details out!


Thanks so much for your help!

Cheran