THOMAS HOUGHTON WIGAN

[seasider]

Can anyone find anymore information on Thomas Houghton born abt. 1825 in Wigan. He appears on the 1841 census age 15 son of John and Mary [ miss spelt Haughton] of Brock Mill Lane or Bridge but cannot find him on later census or any BMD for him.
Thanks

[Milliepede]

There is one who marries a Nancy **

1861

Thomas Houghton 37 born Wigan
Nancy 33
John 8
Alice 6
Jane 4
Sarah 1

** nope that one has father William Houghton not John although the 1841 census doesn't give relationships so he may not have been the son of John that is the assumption.

[lancsann]

I would guess Thomas and brother John were not sons of John & Mary. From the 1841 census the next son William was described as the 1st son of John & Mary, Fanney 1st daughter

was Thomas actually Mary's son or John's from a previous marriage?

This is on the asumption that John (& Thomas) were spademakers

[seasider]

Thanks for the replies. I did wonder if John or Mary had been married before and Thomas was one of either parent's previous marriages.. John does come up on a birth and Christening in 1833, parents John and Mary a spade maker, so it does leave a question mark over Thomas. I also get the Baptisms for all the other children and it's John and Mary a Spade maker.
I have never found a marriage between John and Mary [ her previous name was Green, which comes from last son Richard's birth details]. I have been trying to unravel this for some years now, so if anyone has any more ideas. Thanks

[lancsann]

I did wonder if the john1833 should have been James but he is also described as first son

Mary might also have been a widow when she married John. I wonder if richard's birth certificate would say ' son of John and Mary lately Formerly Green' therefore giving a previous married name

On that 1841 census John and William are the same age which seems to indicate they were either stepbrothers or half brothers

[seasider]

Thanks again
According to the Parish records I see John Born in Aug 1833 and William born Dec 1826. I think they have rounded some of these ages up on the 1841 census. They don't give the relation to the head on the 1841 census so I am wondering if John was a relative living there or as you say a stepson.
I can't find John either on the 1851 census but brother William was a lodger in Yorkshire.
I have now sent for Richard's birth cert. to see if there is another name besides Green so maybe that will give me a lead.

[lancsann]

the usual on the 1841 is for ages over about 15 they were rounded down

[hol]

Hello
Don't know if you have already sorted this but will post anyway in case.
From lanc opc . Thomas Myers b 1822 son of William Myers and Mary (formally Green).wigan
Marriage 1832 a John Houghton to Mary Mayors. Again at Wigan.
Thomas Myers is the next door neighbour to John on 1861 census and is a spade finisher.
Lee