Author Topic: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead  (Read 3707 times)

Offline Erato

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,753
  • Old Powder House, 1703
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 15:42 BST (UK) »
"The end result is a quantity of green-brown tinted liquid (containing amino acids, peptides, sugars and salts) and soft, porous white bone remains  ...  this alkaline hydrolysis process has been championed by a number of ecological campaigning groups, for using 1/8 of the energy of flame-based cremation and producing less carbon dioxide and pollutants."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_hydrolysis_(death_custom)

It may use less energy but the carbon and the 'pollutants' are contained in the liquid.  Sooner or later, the carbon compounds in the body will be broken down and will be converted to CO₂ and water, whether the body is buried, cremated or hydrolized.
Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr, Davis

Offline Geoff-E

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,210
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 16:16 BST (UK) »
A little research shows that cremation takes between 1 and 3 hrs depending on body size. As the coffin remains on the catafalque for most of the service and then has to go through an ID process, cremation begins after you leave but usually the same day.

 ... but must take place within 72 hours of the service.
Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days alive.

Offline Gan Yam

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 591
  • Going Home - exploring my past
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 18:27 BST (UK) »
What happens to the liquid?
Soup de jour

Reminds me of the film Soylent Green!
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Andrew Tarr

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,857
  • Wanted: Charles Percy Liversidge
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 20:18 BST (UK) »
The process is more ecologically friendly than cremation.

You have to factor in the cost of making KOH - probably electrolytic as for NaOH, therefore energy consuming - and of keeping the pressure vessel hot.  Otherwise reasonably good recycling I suppose.
Tarr, Tydeman, Liversidge, Bartlett, Young


Offline Scribble1952

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 195
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 20:57 BST (UK) »
Sounds  very Scientific. What if it gets into the wrong Hands. ???
What purpose could it serve. :-\

Offline John915

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,569
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 23 May 17 21:10 BST (UK) »
Good evening,

Ask mr Haigh, acid bath murderer.

John915
Stephens, Fuller, Tedham, Bennett, Ransome (Sussex)
Rider (Fulham)
Stephens (Somerset)
Kentfield (Essex)

Offline Andrew Tarr

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,857
  • Wanted: Charles Percy Liversidge
    • View Profile
Re: Alkaline Hydrolysis a new way to "cremate" the dead
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 25 May 17 18:00 BST (UK) »
Ask mr Haigh, acid bath murderer.

Acid bath and alkaline hydrolysis are very different techniques, though probably giving similar results ....
Tarr, Tydeman, Liversidge, Bartlett, Young