John Vasey Hodgson

[trish1120]

Maybe the M/C of George/Jane Isabella is needed.
Nothing on-line for it that I can see.

I have looked at all George Hodgsons in 1891 Census and the one I found is the only one that fits but his age is a little out so I may be wrong. All the others born Northumberland have other Wives by 1901/1911 Census.


Trish

[Tickettyboo]

I  am certainly not discounting what you found, Trish. I just can't think of any other way than a marriage record to give the link between the George Hodgson you have tracked to the George Hodgson, birth place unknown, and birth year (if the census records and 1939 have correct info) of 1875.

Will keep thinking in case I have a flash of inspiration!

Boo

[WolfieSmith]

A family tree on you know what gives the following George as the one. No evidence given, but looks a reasonable candidate. Right age, right place, not with his parents in later census, parents moved around a lot so confusion over places of birth for large family, has a brother a few years younger born in Wylam, a few miles up river from Blaydon.

1891 census, 18 Smokey Row, Framwellgate, Durham.

William Hodgson, 57, Coal Miner, b. Bedale, Yorks,
Elizabeth ", 40, wife, b. Trisington, Durham,
Thomas ", son, 18, Putter, b. Shildon, Durham,
George ", son, 16, Putter, b. Shildon, Durham,
Elizabeth ", dau, 14, b. Oxhill, Durham
Robert H. ", son, 4, b. Silksworth, Durham,
John ", son, 12, b. Wylam, Northumberland,
Joseph ", son, 8, b. Cablesworth, Durham,
William ", son, 2, b. Framwellgate Moor, Durham.
RG12; Piece: 4100; Folio: 28; Page: 20

Same family in 1881 at 75 The Square, Lamesley :

William Hodgson, 39, Coal Miner, b.Bedale, Yorks,
Elizabeth ", wife, 30, Thistleton Colly, Durham,
Christopher ", son, 19, Coal mIner, b. Chilton Buildgs, Durham,
James ", son, 16, b. Coal Miner, Coundon, Durham,
William ", son, 13, b. Bishop Auckland, Durham,
John T., " son, 8, b. Shildon, Durham,
Thomas Wilson, stepson, 7, b. Shildon, Durham,
George Hodgson, son, 5, b. Bishop Auckland, Durham,
Elizabeth A. ", dau, 4, b Chester le Street, Durham,
Jonathon ", son, 1, b Wylam, Northumberland,
RG11; Piece: 4985; Folio: 82; Page: 12

Same family in 1901 at 4 West Street, Stanley,

William Hodgson, 68, Coal Miner, b. Bedale, Yorks,
Elizabeth ", wife, 53, Coxhoe, Durham,
Tom ", son, 27, Coal Miner, b. Shildon, Durham,
Jonathan ", son, 21, Coal Miner, b. Wylam, Northumberland,
Joseph ", son, 17, Coal Miner, b. Heworth, Durham,
Robert H. ", son, 14, Coal Miner, b. Silksworth, Durham,
William ", son, 11, b. Framwellgate Moor, Durham,
John ", son, 7, b Framwellgate Mooor, Durham,
Hannah Wilson, Serv, 14, General Domestic Servant, b. Bishop Auckland, Durham.
RG13; Piece: 4664; Folio: 98; Page: 17

George Hodgson, b. 6 Sep 1875, baptized 13 Oct 1875, Shildon, Co. Durham, parents William and Elizabeth.

Looks a good candidate but with no evidence, need the marriage info. Or you could contact the family tree owner if you have access, see if they have other evidence. Hodgson - Johnson Family Tree. Has Elizabeth dying 1908, William 1917.

Alan.

[trish1120]

Yes I agree with you Boo.

Thank for that Alan.

I''d get that Cert if I was you Pialba if the Tree Owner doesnt have it.

Trish

[WolfieSmith]

I don't have access to the 1939 register, and we aren't allowed to do lookups anyway, but a free search for George Hodgson b. 1875, with a specific birth date of 6 Sept, as per the Shildon birth / baptism, gives a positive result. Jane I Hodgson b 1877 in same household.

The family tree on you know what has a son Leonard Hodgson DOB 26 March 1917. Doing a specific search on that DOB on the 1939 free search confirms he is in the same household.

Alan.

[Tickettyboo]

Really well found Alan! It certainly ticks all the boxes :-)

and yes, I agree, especially if they were my direct line, I'd want the marriage cert to tick the final box and have it all documented.

Boo

[Pialba]

WoolfieSmith, I have just printed out the 1939 Register, and George born 6 Sept 1875, Jane I. born 29 Nov 1877, George W. born 9 Apr 1903, Leonard born26 Mar 1917,Margaret A. Farren [Hodgson] born 29 Nov1918, and Elizabeth born 9 Nov 1920 were living at 34 Gilesgate, Durham. M.B., Durham England. I also I also found an Arthur born 7 Oct. 1906, Percy born 14 Dec 1909, and Ernest born 17 Mar 1908, who may be the other 3 sons. but can't be 100% sure.Ties in with the ones on the 1911 Census.

[trish1120]

Let us know the outcome of the Marriage Cert please Pialba

[Pialba]

I think I have finally cracked the mystery as to why Elizabeth Jopling was with the family on the 1881 census. Seems her first marriage was to a Bainbridge, and she had a daughter called Jane, who married William White in 1852, and William White was the father of Margaret Ann who marriedJohn Vasey Johnson. So the Census has her [Elizabeth as mother in law, but should have been grandmother in law]. I must thank everyone who has had input to this query, if it were not for all the help I have received, I would not have even touched first base.