George BLAND of Lancaster & Trinidad 1820s

[trish1120]

Thank you all for caring, I am better but still not 100 per cent.

[..claire..]

Hi Malcolm and all

I'm adding this attachment for Malcolm as it is something he would like to see.

Claire

[BlandTree]

I am sending this message to the three wonderfully generous researchers who helped me with my decades old brick wall back in 2017.  If you are still interested in this thread, I now think that I may have found the breakthrough that I sought and, to be honest, my hopes that this is the case is largely because of help which you gave me back then!

My new-found optimism is based entirely on circumstantial evidence but this is quite substantial & compelling!  However, I am more than well aware of the dangers of believing what I want to believe, suspending critical evaluation & ignoring niggling doubts!

I am not sure how to do it but I would very much like to sent you my findings in a ‘Word’ document or, at the very least, include some pictures in a continuation of the original thread.  Meanwhile, this is the basis of the new theory which I have spent some time pursuing!
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2F13-0743-GB-YOR-PARISH-REGISTERS-PR-BNA-1-2-1537-1900%2F00078&parentid=GBPRS%2FYORKSHIRE%2FBAP%2F600018045

[Maiden Stone]

   Nicholas CARLISLE (how does he fit into these families?), wrote his 'History' of the Bland family in 1826, for his friend Michael BLAND (who was he?) but the registers he quotes were transcribed for him by the vicar of Sedbergh and contained nothing after 1728!

Might Michael Bland have been Miles? Just a suggestion. This the first time I've read the thread.

[BlandTree]

Many thanks for your post, Maiden Stone, I do appreciate it.

I have a copy of Nicholas Carlisle's book & it contains just one reference to Trinidad but that is too early for my present purposes.

That part of my research took place many years ago and I cannot perfectly answer all your questions from memory.  It seems very likely that Nicholas Carlisle is related to Ann Carlisle who married George Bland (of Trinidad) in 1817 in Lancaster.  Miles Bland was the officiating minister and George Bland was Miles' brother.  Miles Bland had an interesting (and not altogether blameless) life & is to be found in the National Biographical Dictionary. 

I have long thought that as my William Bland married Elizabeth Sugden in Otley just 5 months before George Bland married Ann Carlisle 65 miles away in Lancaster, that William might have met George while he was in England and been persuaded to take his whole family on the long voyage to Trinidad where an opportunity existed for great financial rewards.  As it happened, William's younger son was very ill and William sailed alone to Trinidad, where he died. 

That still features in my thoughts but I am almost certain that 'my' William was born at Bolton Bridge near Bolton Abbey and baptised in Bolton Abbey in 1797.  As Bolton Abbey had Dade Registers at that time William's parents & grandparents are in the baptism register!

Kind regards,

Malcolm

[trish1120]

Please please tell us what the register says

I dont have access.

Trish

[BlandTree]

Baptism of ‘possibly’ my William Bland who died in Trinidad!!  (My 30 year-long Brick Wall!)

'Dade' baptism entry for Bolton Abbey.
              1797
William Bland son of William Bland
Of Bolton Bridge Cotton Spinner
Son of William Bland of Addingham
Wool Comber by Sarah Daur: of
Thomas Atkinson of Addingham
Farmr -. And Jane Daur: of
Edmund Cort of Beamish Hall
Farmr by Sarah Dau: of           Howson
of         Born Decbr 31st Baptd Jan 22 96

'My' William Bland was a millwright so I like the fact that this one's father and grandfather were operatives in the textile industry.  Bolton Bridge is only 2½ miles from Addingham, where there are many BLAND Mill Owners and operators and, significantly, ‘my’ William’s mother is Jane CORT who lives only a couple of hundred yards from Bolton Bridge and, therefore, her son John CORT, who was a witness at William’s marriage to Elizabeth SUGDEN in Otley in 1816, is this William’s cousin and they both live in a tiny settlement of fewer than about 100 souls. 

Also, from the Dade baptism record, Sarah BLAND who was baptised in Addingham is definitely ‘my’ William’s sister and a William BLAND with very similar writing was a witness for her marriage just two years after William’s and also in Otley which is 11½ miles from Bolton Bridge & 9 miles from Addingham.

This is purely circumstantial evidence and I may be guilty of making the facts fit my theory, but what do others think?  Any comments very welcome!

Malcolm

[trish1120]

It all looks very plausible to me

[willsy]

Had a look at baptisms for Edmund Cort and Sarah's children and wondered about their son John

1851 he is with brother Edmund and sister Margaret Knowles, she marries Samuel 1814... but not the same signature for John Cort witness compared to William Bland's witness John Cort I think

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SP9V-VX4

1841 John and a Sarah aged 90

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQPW-W49

John dies 1857 and there is a will but not online

Have you looked at any Bland's in Otley? Have just put in a quick search but have to nip out

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01o8a/