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Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« on: Tuesday 13 June 17 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hello Everyone

Does any one know what a cloging workloom is. It was listed on a 1722 inventory.

The inventory also lists a 'Chiff in the shop', so I image he had a loom shop, but can't find out what a Chiff is either.

It seems to be some type of furniture as a second Chiff is listed as being in the parlor. Thought it might be an abbreviation for a chiffonier, but it seems that chiffoniers didn't come into use until the Regency period.

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Karen
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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 15:28 BST (UK) »
It may help to see the actual writing. Can you provide a snip of the original document?

If possible include a few additional words to give an idea of the style of writing, spelling etc.

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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 17:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Ruskie

On second look, it might be chist?

The Cloging workloomes are in a list of items owing to him.

Hope this helps

Karen
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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 17:35 BST (UK) »
If it is chist could this mean chest.

Now I'm getting confused.
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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 17:37 BST (UK) »
I think you are right = chist = chest.

Could have been like a blanket chest today, would have been used to keep samples & materials in.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 21:47 BST (UK) »
I'd definitely say that 'chist'  here would be a chest.
I have seen this often in wills.
Probably accounted for by whatever accent the people had where this took place.
Plus you always have to remember that spelling was not 'fixed' until comparatively recently -
just in this clip 'little' is written 'littell', and 'chair' is written 'chear'.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 00:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Goldie 61

It definitely is chest as there was three chests listed in his father's inventory, but spelt Chestes.

Odd thing is, the spelling in his father's will and inventory (1686) is very much like today's. Much easier to transcribe.

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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 01:10 BST (UK) »
Glad that the "chests" have been sorted.

I will leave it to the writing experts to decipher,  but I am not sure that is a 'Cl' before "_oging workloomes".  :-\

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Re: Cloging Work Loom? Chiff?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 June 17 03:36 BST (UK) »
This is an interesting site. Chist = chest.
file:///Users/Richard/Desktop/Glossary%20of%20terms%20%7C%20South%20Pennine%20Probate%20Archive.webarchive

Sorry, that link doesn't work.
will try again!
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs