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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #90 on: Tuesday 27 June 17 17:07 BST (UK) »
Meanwhile......

I have downloaded the Baptism for Farquhar McDonald 17 Jul 1819 in Kilmorack, Inverness-shire, Scotland.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=773980.new#new

Just waiting for replies as I think I know what it 'should' read!  :-\

I am puzzled though as to why the mother's name is missing (not very helpful)  ::)

It does not mention 'illegitimate' i.e. it does not look as though he was the son of Catherine (m/s MacDonald) who married 'a' Finlay/Findlay M(a)cDonald later in the year 1819 ???

EDIT.....To include;

This marriage;

MCDONALD FINLAY & KATHARINE MCDONALD (FR347) 04/12/1819
100/10 571 Kilmorack (Posted earlier)

Variants of spelling to be expected for the period.


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #91 on: Wednesday 28 June 17 09:45 BST (UK) »
Meanwhile......

I have downloaded the Baptism for Farquhar McDonald 17 Jul 1819 in Kilmorack, Inverness-shire, Scotland.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=773980.new#new

Just waiting for replies as I think I know what it 'should' read!  :-\

I am puzzled though as to why the mother's name is missing (not very helpful)  ::)

It does not mention 'illegitimate' i.e. it does not look as though he was the son of Catherine (m/s MacDonald) who married 'a' Finlay/Findlay M(a)cDonald later in the year 1819 ???

EDIT.....To include;

This marriage;

MCDONALD FINLAY & KATHARINE MCDONALD (FR347) 04/12/1819
100/10 571 Kilmorack (Posted earlier)

Variants of spelling to be expected for the period.


Annie

Thanks for that! And from reading the other post, Muilie (or Muille) looks like it is written on the page. (I'm no expert, though). Also, I have a source that mentions a daughter, Catherine, was born in Beauly, so not sure if this bears any resemblance or is anywhere near where 'Muilie' was.

EDIT: Just from doing some searching, I found that many of the places mentioned; Glen Strathfarrar, the Lochs etc, are in Beauly.
Lillis (IRE)
McKenna (IRE)
Minehan (IRE)
Prest (ENG)
Gowland (ENG)
Ashby (ENG)
Brand (SCOT)
McLean (SCOT)
McDonald (SCOT)

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #92 on: Wednesday 28 June 17 13:28 BST (UK) »
From another Poster (on link below), 'an' Anne was Bapt. same place, father a Shepherd but again no mother's name.

Map links now added here;

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=773980.msg6272908#msg6272908

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #93 on: Wednesday 28 June 17 13:30 BST (UK) »
From another Poster (on link below), 'an' Anne was Bapt. same place, father a Shepherd but again no mother's name.

Map links now added here;

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=773980.msg6272908#msg6272908

Annie

It's quite possible that this Anne could be our Nancy. And only a few years apart in age too, like the document I had originally. Do any of the other records on Farquhar and Anne's baptism cert specify mothers?
Lillis (IRE)
McKenna (IRE)
Minehan (IRE)
Prest (ENG)
Gowland (ENG)
Ashby (ENG)
Brand (SCOT)
McLean (SCOT)
McDonald (SCOT)


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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #94 on: Wednesday 28 June 17 13:36 BST (UK) »
Neither are showing the mother's name which is annoying but at this point I would definitely rule out the parents from the marriage I posted...
MCDONALD FINLAY & KATHARINE MCDONALD (FR347) 04/12/1819

We now have an occ. which is a step forward & fits well with map location.

Ooops, Yes, it would seem this would be Nancy?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #95 on: Thursday 29 June 17 01:01 BST (UK) »
I found this an interesting read;

https://arts.st-andrews.ac.uk/beauly/pdfs/SURVP.pdf

There are some lovely photos but pages mainly of interest would be 147/148

The places in general look fabulous!

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #96 on: Thursday 29 June 17 02:18 BST (UK) »
TIMELINE (to keep track as I'm losing the plot....I mean the place  ;D

Arrived on the "Heber" on the 27th of July, 1839

Findlay/Finlay McDonald/MacDonald aged 40 (b c1799) Occ. Shepherd (Dau Anne's bap), Possibly died 29th of Nov 1866

Catherine McDonald, aged 36 (b c1803) Possibly died 19th of November 1868

Children (at the time of travel)
 
Ferchan (18), b c1821 (Possible bapt. found Farquhar McDonald 17 Jul 1819 in Muilie, Kilmorack, INV) Possibly died 1889, at age 68

Nancy (16), b c1823 (Possible bapt. found Anne 01 Jul 1821 in Muilie, Kilmorack, INV)

John (15), b c1824

Margaret (14) b c1825

Catherine (8 )" b c1831


Ferchan/Farquhar possibly had 7 siblings, 2 below (My Heritage/no dates):

Mary A.

Alexander McDonald and 5 other siblings (So far 6 names i.e. 1 still elusive)?


4 marriages on SP

MCDONALD FINLAY & CATHARINE RAE 01/07/1814
098/80 298 Inverness

MCDONALD FINLAY & KATHARINE MCDONALD (FR347) 04/12/1819
100/10 571 Kilmorack

MACDONALD FINLAY & CATHARIN MCLEOD/ 03/06/1828
098/100 256 Inverness
(Discounted as too late)

MCDONALD FINLAY & CATHRINE FRASER (FR500) 15/03/1832
107/30 107 Urquhart and Glenmoriston

(Can be ruled out as they were having children in Scotland after 1839 (Heber) journey)
This was the parents showing on My Heritage site.


Annie

ADDED Jamjar has pointed out that Catherine's father was Alexander McDonald which I had forgot i.e. Catherine's m/s has to be McDonald
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #97 on: Thursday 29 June 17 07:44 BST (UK) »
Annie, many thanks for the place-names, fabulous stuff. Walked through from Muir of Ord to Attadale on the west coast in my young day, took about 4/5 days, Glasgow Fair, glorious weather, nae roads, nae peeps & lost for much of the time! By the end of the journey my map was in bits-killing clegs! ;D

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Re: MCDONALD of Rouchel, NSW
« Reply #98 on: Thursday 29 June 17 08:48 BST (UK) »
Annie, on the record of immigration it states that Catherine's father was Alexander McDonald.

Given the Scottish naming patterns and the appearance of the name Alexander within the family line, it is likely that her father may have been an Alexander.

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