shepperd/jarvis

[rosie99]

his 'parents' were william and hannah mower, they were in the workhouse along with their kids. it is supposed that one of the mowers daughters, either hannah 1824 or maria 1826 had the illegitimate henry and their parents took him on.

in the workhouse at the same time, in 1841, was a james shepard, so its likely he knew the mower girls.

Hannah & William Mower were not in the workhouse in 1841 - they were living in Hereford Street, Marylebone    H0107/677/3 f18 page 30

William possibly died in the workhouse infirmary in 1853 and Hannah 1852.  It is likely that any children were then resident there

The only James Shepherd in the area in 1841 was age 80 

[robert g shaw]

There seem to be a lot of assumptions here. If Henry had been William and Hannah's grandson, why not just say grandson on the census, rather than nurse child. They have granddaughter Amelia in the household, she is likely to be illegitimate. She is probably the Emily Mower reg Q1 1849 Marylebone district, mmn blank.
Illegitimate children are usually registered / known by their mother's maiden surname so why is Henry a Shepherd not a Mower.
I can't see the Mower family in 1841 in the workhouse, I see a family in Hereford Street, William is a coachman.

they wanted it kept quiet?

i found them in a workhouse in the 1841 census, along with a james shepard b 1826 (funny lemur41 couldnt find that either).

yes there are a lot of assumptions, but it does fit, in 1871 henry shepard was an engineer... he disappears when james howe appears, its known that 'only eliza knew his (james howes) true identity and she took that to the grave (family tradition). he probably, as a child, thought william and hannah was his parents , and hannah being a 'howe' is pretty compelling i think when it comes to changing your identity.

the only thing that i havnt squared yet.... in derby, his 2 census (as j h ) says he comes from hythe kent. currently i can find no connection.

[rosie99]

You can make anything fit if you want to 

He may have thought William & Hannah were his parents but it is unlikely he knew that Hannah's maiden name was Howe - why would he need to know

[rosie99]

henry shepard lived a rougish life by the look of it, joining the navy, living in canada, marrying, deserting them, returning to london and fathering another child marrying again (?) before deserting them moving to derby,

Can you please give us the details of these events

[robert g shaw]

You can make anything fit if you want to 

He may have thought William & Hannah were his parents but it is unlikely he knew that Hannah's maiden name was Howe - why would he need to know

why not?... im sure his natural mother and her siblings would have mentioed it. he probably didnt need it until he assumed a new identity.

i know its not perfect, but until james howe can be found on any census or certificate prior to 1872, and /or henry shepard can be found post 1871 , its the best ive got and it cannot be disproven, too many coincidences.

[robert g shaw]

henry shepard lived a rougish life by the look of it, joining the navy, living in canada, marrying, deserting them, returning to london and fathering another child marrying again (?) before deserting them moving to derby,

Can you please give us the details of these events

nope..... it was sent by pm, i do not have the sources, i cannot view canadian records (or i dont know how lol) but henry shepard can be found on the 1861 census as a navy boy in cornwall .

[rosie99]

Naval records for that period are online so hopefully you will be able to locate some for him which may help your search

[robert g shaw]

Naval records for that period are online so hopefully you will be able to locate some for him which may help your search

where?...lol.. tbh im swamped with info atm that needs checking and investigating, hence the shepard/jarvis marriage info..

[rosie99]

Ancestry have some royal navy records