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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #18 on: Friday 21 July 17 08:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Val

They married by licence and not by banns, details of licences in general below
https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales

This is a transcript of the licence/allegation:
   "The marriage allegation was swarm before William Cowper, Surrogate, stated that Thomas Casey was a husbandman and appeared personally, he made oath that he was of the Parish of Dovercourt, bachelor, aged 21 and upwards & intended to marry Ann Smith of Thorpe, a spinster and minor by & with the consent of Joseph Smith, her natural & lawful father. Joseph appeared personally. The marriage was solemnised on 24th November 1787."

I found the transcript of My Heritage, and checked the source on SEAX. The tree on MH is managed by someone called Kearsey who appears to live in USA and may be a descendent of Thomas, have sent him a message.

My understanding of husbandman is that he was a tenant farmer, above an aglab but below a landowner.

There may be a will but I can't find it.


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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #19 on: Friday 21 July 17 10:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark,
 I found this description of Husbandman which varies a little from your info.
A husbandman in England in the medieval and early modern period was a free tenant farmer or small landowner. The social status of a husbandman was below that of a yeoman. The meaning of "husband" in this term is "master of house" rather than "married man".
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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #20 on: Friday 21 July 17 17:27 BST (UK) »
I have spoken to the descendent of Thomas, he has gone no further back than the marriage of Thomas and Ann.
He is descended from their son James, who moved to Fringringhoe, then South Benfleet and then Colchester.

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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #21 on: Friday 21 July 17 21:55 BST (UK) »
Essex Record Office
Settlement Papers ref 169/13/1
Thomas Kasey from Kirby le Soken to Thorpe  W+4 (wife plus 4 children) dated 1795

Examinations ref 169/13/4
Joseph Casey 1816 from Kirby Le Soken to Thorpe

These are not digitized so I cannot tell you what information they have, however from previous
enquires you will get the name of the wife of Thomas Kasey and all 4 children. (Settlement Papers)

As for Joseph Casey- 1816 he could be the son of Thomas who went back to Kirby le Soken and due to circumstances needed to come back to Thorpe. Examinations often have detailed notes of when born to whom to verify belonging to a village or town.


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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 22 July 17 03:10 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for all of your help. story goes that both sides of the family came from Wicklow County Ireland a couple of generations ago, it may be that Thomas came from there. I have checked a number of bap. parish records and still not able to find his birth. My sister-in -law's partner also comes  down from James.
Think this will have to close my enquiry. Thanks again for all of your support
Val Newman

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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 22 July 17 06:39 BST (UK) »
You are welcome.
A word of caution follow the facts not family stories they get embellished over time.

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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 22 July 17 07:51 BST (UK) »
I would echo amondg's sentiments.
The Kersey surname is a habitational name from the village of Kersey in Suffolk, 23 miles from Thorpe le Soken, indeed its spelling in the Doomesday Book was Caresia, from an earlier Caerse ey.
See http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Kersey
In the late 1700's the parish priest would have been 1 of the few people in the parish to be literate and would have written the surname as he heard it, the Suffolk/North Essex accent is even now quite pronounced and would have been even more so in the 1700's.

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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 22 July 17 09:51 BST (UK) »
I will check the name out in the Kersey Village. I managed to locate some Kersey names in the late 1500's and early 1600 in Essex but have not follow them through.
I am a bit like a terrier who refuses to let go
 Cheers Val

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Re: Thomas Casey
« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 July 17 10:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Mark,
 I recently found this record but I do not think there is any way to verify the details :-
Thomas Kersey Bap 29th September 1760 Debenham
Father Thomas, mother Hannah
Father Thomas buried 13th April 1760, 5 months before Thomas is born.
Hannah Kersey, widow, married Samuel Abott 17th September 1766
Witnesses Robert Abbott and Charles Clodd
However, there are 3 Thomas Kersey buried, no age given
14th July 1764, 26th January 1790 & 30th December 1792
No marriage record found here.