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Offline Barry Ponsford

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Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« on: Monday 24 July 17 08:18 BST (UK) »
Dear all

I wondered if any one can help me...I'm looking for a marriage between Elizabeth Parr (b.1811) & James Ponsford (b.1808) - I believe this happen around c.1835 in Dunsford, Devon.

James' parents were Henry Ponsford & Richord Bolt.

Many thanks
Barry ;D

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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 July 17 08:41 BST (UK) »
James Ponsford/Elizabeth Parr
Marriage at Dunsford    23 Aug 1835
Elizabeth signed and James made his mark  Both of the parish
Both single - Witnesses Eliza Parr and William  Sercombe??

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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 July 17 08:47 BST (UK) »
Is this later 13 April 1841 marriage in Dunsford related??

James Ponsford widower 36 Labourer father James Ponsford - Labourer
Sarah Sumers single 24 Servant father John Sumers Labourer

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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 July 17 14:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kay - I don't suppose it says anything about the parents of the James that married Elizabeth Parr??

The second entry I'm hoping is not related, as it will make a right mess of my tree ;-)

Are you able to send me a copy of the record you used in the first marriage?

Regards

Barry


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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 July 17 15:48 BST (UK) »
The 2nd Marriage for the James Ponsford in 1841 may be this James;

Baptism;
27 Jan 1805, St James, Dunsford
JAMES, Son of JAMES/MARY
(FreeREG)

I can find 1 Child to James/Sarah a WILLIAM Bapt 8 Jan 1843 Dunsford.
Cant find them on Census though!
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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:49 BST (UK) »
Have sent you a pm Barry

I can't see the James Ponsford who married in 1841 either in the census.   I think the GRO birth index lists the 1843 bapt that Trish found as William Ponsford Dec Qtr 1842 ST THOMAS UNION DEVON Vol 10  Page 207 with mother's maiden name Somerville??

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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 July 17 16:53 BST (UK) »
I am very confused here looking at Trees as some have James born Dundry, Somerset.
His Wife Elizabeth is down as several surnames.
A lot of Tree copying going on.
Some of these have this James Parents as the same you name.

Is this your Elizabeth in 1851 Census?

1851 Census
Dunsford, Devon
(St Thomas Reg District)
William CORNISH, 29, Head, Mar, Ag Lab
Sarah Cornish, 50, Wife (image is 30*)
William Cornish, 4, Son
Anna Maria Cornish, 2, Daug
Elizabeth PONSFORD, 42, Sister, Widow
JOHN Ponsford, 7, Nephew**
John Casley, 51, Lodger

Everyone born Dunsford*

GRO Index Birth Regs

PONSFORD, JOHN, Mothers mn PARR****
GRO Reference: 1844  M Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION  Volume 10  Page 225

CORNISH, ANNA  MARIA PARR, Mothers mn PARR***
GRO Reference: 1848  S Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION  Volume 10  Page 219

Marriage Reg;
March 1846, St Thomas, 10 387
William CORNISH and Sarah PARR on same page.

Baptisms;
St Mary, Dunsford
ELIZABETH Parr 4 Feb 1810*****
JAMES 15 Dec 1811
WILLIAM 17 Oct 1813
ELIZA 22 Oct 1815
SARAH Parr 25 Jan 1818****
MARIA 10 June 1821
JOHN 4 April 1824
SUSANNA ANN 12 Nov 1826
Parents JAMES/MARIA

Sarahs has extra info
Fathers Occp Cordwainer, Abode Brownings Cottage.
On the last 2 the abode is Jervices

ELIZA 1815 likely had an illeg Daug Mary Ann Westlake Parr 1840

All above Baptisms on FreeREG.

Trish :)
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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 July 17 17:00 BST (UK) »
Adds up;

1841 Census
Dunsford, Devon
James Ponsford, 30, Ag Lab
Elizabeth Ponsford, 30
Anna Ponsford, 5
William Ponsford, 2

PONSFORD, WILLIAM  PARR, Mothers mn PARR
GRO Reference: 1838  S Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION  Volume 10  Page 201

Death Reg GRO;
PONSFORD, JAMES, 38*****
GRO Reference: 1846  M Quarter in ST THOMAS UNION  Volume 10  Page 152

There is a Birth Reg for a SARAH Ponsford 1841, Mother PARR and a Death Reg age 0
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Re: Elizabeth Parr Marriage
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 July 17 17:19 BST (UK) »
I cant see a Baptism for James with those Parents?

You may already have all of this but may help others;

Marriage;
8 November 1807, Tedburn Saint Mary, Devon
James PAR to Maria LISCOMBE
(Familysearch.Org)

1841 Census
Dunston, Devon
James Parr, 55
James Parr, 25
Eliza Parr, 20
Sarah Parr, 20
John Parr, 15
Susanna Parr. 15
Mary Parr. 1

Names match Baptisms I gave.   
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