William Sands (1815-1863)

[MacGrigor]

Hello,

I am enquiring about my great-great-great-grandfather, William Sands. He was born in 1815, in Manchester, and died in 1863, in St. Luke's, Middlesex. I would appreciate any information on his parentage.

Thanks,

Adam McGregor

[MacGrigor]

Hello,

I am enquiring about my great-great-great-grandmother, Mary Sands (born Thompson). She was born in 1817, in St. Luke's, Middlesex. She states that she was married to William Sands (1815-1863), but I can locate no marriage record. She cannot be found on the 1871 Census, and I cannot find either a death or another marriage record. I would appreciate any information on her parentage, and what became of her.

Thanks,

Adam McGregor

[BumbleB]

Can't help with the parentage question.  However, the GRO give his age as 46, when he died in 1863, which gives a birth year of 1816/7.

Do you have a copy of his will?  Mary Thompson Sands was his widow, address was 24 Great Arthur Street, St Luke and his death date was 12 April.

[MacGrigor]

I'm afraid I don't have a copy of his will. However, it confirms my belief that his wife was a Thompson, having used the GRO website, which gives maiden names for children. I've started a separate thread for her. Not sure what became of her after her husband's death. I can't find a marriage record, so could her use of her former name suggest that they weren't actually married?

[Jolee]

St James Clerkenwell Middlesex
25th January 1837
William Sands to Mary Thompson both made their mark
Witnessed by Wm Webb and (looks like) J Burwash
He was a bachelor she a spinster

[MacGrigor]

Thank you very much! Are any details of fathers provided?

[lizdb]

Marriage

25 Jan 1837
St James , Clerkenwell
William Sands , bachelor, of this parish
Mary Thompson , spinster, of this parish
by banns
both made mark
Witnesses : William Webb and H Burwash (best guesses, not very clear!)

[MacGrigor]

Thanks for that. I haven't been able to locate an 1841 Census record for the couple, so there's no clues to their parents.

[lizdb]

Mary consistently says bn St Lukes in 1851 and 1861.
I wonder about this one as a possible, though age not brilliant:

Baptism
St Lukes, Chelsea
3 Nov 1822
Mary , dtr of Francis and Elizabeth Thompson, of NEw Road, he a labourer, dob 5 Nov 1820