Mary Ann Morris

[hencarrai]

I have a marriage certificate for Mary Ann Morris to George Williams, Sep 14 1868.
Parish of Gelligair, Glamorgan.
Mary age 21, father Richard Morris deceased.
George age 20, father William Williams, Collier.

Can anyone help find Mary Ann in 1851 and 1861 please.

1871 census shows the couple in Cwmsyfiog, Bedwellty: Mary Ann born Mynyddislwyn, which is why I've posted to Monmouthshire forum.
81,91,01 censuses say born Cwmsyfiog, Bedwellty.

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi, this looks a likely 1861 RG09 Piece 4000/59/20

1861- 125, New Tredegar, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales

Jane   Roberts   Head   Married   Female   35   House Keeper   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
William Morris   Son   Unmarried   Male   19   Coal Miner, Mynddislwyn, Monmouthshire
John   Morris   Son   Unmarried   Male   17   Coal Miner " "
Mary Anne   Morris Daughter   Unmarried   Female 14 House Servant " "

The GRO has Mmn Price for all above children in Newport reg district

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:    
MORRIS, MARY  ANN     Mmn PRICE     
GRO Reference: 1846  J Quarter in NEWPORT  Volume 26  Page 114

To confirm, you could order the cert with proviso that parents are Richard/Jane, if not they will refund.
 
Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Marriage that fits possible parents of Mary A

Richard Morris, widower, full age
Marriage 04 May 1840
Father Joe Morris, occ. lab
Place and residence of both   Mynyddislwyn
Spouse - Jane Price, spinster, full age
Spouse's father - David Price, occ. weaver
Witness *John Price - Leah Jones
All made X except Leah
Monmouthshire Marriages And Banns

*John Price likely possible brother to Jane, bapt with siblings 1828 see below #5

1841 - Pentre Mwr, Mynyddyslwyn, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
HO107 Piece 751 Book number 8 Folio  36 Page 2

Richard   Moris   Male   30   
Jane   Moris   Female   20
William   Moris   Male   0   Monmouthshire
Charlotte   Price   Female   45   
Elizabeth   Price   Female   5   

Only William b in county

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Likely 2nd marriage for Jane.

Henry Roberts Full age, widower
Marriage date   05 Feb 1855
Father Evan Roberts occ. lab
Marriage Place & residence, Newport, St Woolos, Monmouthshire
Spouse   Jane Price, Full age, widow
Spouse's father David Price, occ. weaver
Witness- Betsey? Williams - James Roberts
Only witness signed. Married couple signed X
Monmouthshire Marriages And Banns

Unknown why Jane has gone back to maiden name, but does seem likely marriage.

Richard must have died between conception of Mary Ann and above marriage date.

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

1871 Cwmsifoig, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales

Henry Roberts   Head    Male 60   Newport, Monmouthshire
Jane   Roberts   Wife   Female 47 Glamorgan
David Price, Visitor   Male   81 wid, Glamorgan

Next door is William Williams age 45 miner b Aberdare and family, has John Morris, 28, lodger, likely brother of Mary Ann. Some of the Williams children b Gelligaer, could be a connection.

Ref RG10 Piece number 5323 Folio 30 page 53


Cas

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1861 - Quarry Houses, 8, Ty Llwyd, Mynyddyslwyn, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

David   Price   Head   Married   Male   71   Weaver   ? Glamorgan, Wales
Charlotte   Price   Wife   Married   Female   72   Merthyr, Glamorgan


1851 - Tai Bach, Mynyddyslwyn, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

David   Price   Head   Married   Male   60   Flanel Weaver   Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Charlotte   Price   Wife   Married   Female   60 Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan
David   Price   Son   Unmarried   Male   21   Flanel Weaver   Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Elizabeth   Price   Daughter   Unmarried   Female 14   Eglwysilan, Glamorgan

Possible marriage, not finding another match on Glam index, or online.

DAVID PRICE
Marriage 14 Sep 1816
Marriage place   Llanfabon, Glamorgan
Spouse CHARLOTTE JAMES
Bride's parish   LLANFABON
Groom's parish   LLANFABON
Notes   personal detail in the register, Witnesses named, after banns
Glamorgan Marriage Index pre-1837

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanvabon

Number of Price children on familysearch bapt 1828 as a batch with above name parents, place given Caerphilly workhouse or St Martins Eglwysilan. Same Glam bapts. States years but could be age in mths?

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Eglwysilan

Cas

[hencarrai]

Gosh Cas, that's given me something to think about.
It all looks very feasible doesn't it.
Thanks very much,
Rob