Alfred H Taylor 1871 census

[Jamjar]

Perhaps we should start with your grandmother - who is she and where do you have her?

Also, the other children of Alfred and Frances would be helpful.

Jamjar

[loggaman]

Perhaps we should start with your grandmother - who is she and where do you have her?

Edith Gertrude Taylor b 1887 Manchester d 1943 Aberdeen  m 1918 Edinburgh  Lived in Timperley Cheshire was a VAD WW1 France

1891 Census was
Alfred H Taylor Head Married M 39 Shoe Merchant Manchester, Lancashire   23
Frances C Taylor Wife Married   F 36 Whitehaven, Cumberland   24   
Beatrice Taylor Daughter F 14   Scholar Manchester, Lancashire   25   
Marion Taylor Daughter F 12 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire   26   
Frank C Taylor Son M 9 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire    27   
Edith G Taylor Daughter F 4 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire   28   

Taylor, Alfred H   
Registration Number: Rg12 Piece:3189   Folio:83 Page:24
Registration District: Chorlton Sub District:Chorlton Upon MedlockEnumeration District:53   Ecclesiastical Parish:St Clements Civil Parish:Chorlton Upon Medlock Parliamentary Borough: South Manchester Address:50 Butler Street   County: Lancashire

[Jamjar]

TAYLOR, MARGARET  ANN mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1874  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 173

TAYLOR, BEATRICE mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1876  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 296

TAYLOR, MARION mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 826

TAYLOR, FRANK  CLARKE mmn CLARKE     
GRO Reference: 1881  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 755

TAYLOR, FLORENCE mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1884  M Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 794

TAYLOR, EDITH  GERTRUDE mmn CLARKE
GRO Reference: 1886  S Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 08C  Page 803

Jamjar

[heywood]

I don't know where Smith comes from 

Frances Caroline Clarke b 1854 Whitehaven mother Hill

Possibility here

1861 2956/10/14

Caroline Clarke 6 yrs b Whitehaven

Daughter of Edward and Martha Lewis - living in Manchester

They were married in 1860

[loggaman]

I don't know where Smith comes from 

Frances Caroline Clarke b 1854 Whitehaven mother Hill

Possibility here

1861 2956/10/14

Caroline Clarke 6 yrs b Whitehaven

Daughter of Edward and Martha Lewis - living in Manchester

They were married in 1860

Tell me about it they got married in a hurry I think neither had any reason to be in Edinburgh the only thing I can find that links them was France WW1 possibly in the same place. She came from Cheshire he from Aberdeen nothing else of common interest.

[Millmoor]

Groindex gives mother's maiden name as Hill for the birth of Frances Caroline Clarke in Whitehaven.

The 1861 census found by Heywood with Caroline Clarke on it shows a younger sister called Clara age 4 b Manchester.

Groindex has an entry for a Clara Clark(no E) b J quarter 1856 Manchester - mother's maiden name Hill. (She is the only Clara Clark with or without the E showing as born in Manchester in the correct time frame).

William

[heywood]

Tell me about it they got married in a hurry I think neither had any reason to be in Edinburgh the only thing I can find that links them was France WW1 possibly in the same place. She came from Cheshire he from Aberdeen nothing else of common interest.

Not sure what you mean here. Do you mean that they were both in France? I would think that WW1 was an important link. It caused couples from very different places to get together.
There are a couple of very brief published trees which state that Edith married William Gill in November 1918 and their first child was born December 1919 so no apparent reason to hurry.
I wonder if it is just an error on the marriage certificate?

[Jamjar]

Frances Caroline on the 1871?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDXM-CRX

Other births:

CLARKE, VIOLETTA mmn HILL
GRO Reference: 1868  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 257

CLARK, ROBERT mmn HILL
GRO Reference: 1870  J Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 269

CLARK, JAMES mmn HILL
GRO Reference: 1872  S Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 303

CLARK, ALFRED mmn HILL
GRO Reference: 1875  D Quarter in MANCHESTER  Volume 08D  Page 187

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[Jamjar]

The OP on an online source has indicated that the parents of France Caroline are John and Martha.

Therefore:

Marriages Sep 1852  Manchester 8d 156
Clarke John       
Hill Martha

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