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Help - 19th century German script
« on: Wednesday 23 August 17 04:19 BST (UK) »
I have a death certificate for my 4th gr grandfather Edward Bahruth, died 1891 in Hamburg, Germany.  It's in rather good condition but I (and a Swiss cousin) am having a lot of difficulty with the script, and it has to be made worse by the fact German throws extra 'things' on their letters.  Could someone please help?  I'm looking for as complete and literal a translation as possible.  I'm rather hoping there will be names and identities of family members on it so I can go further back with my family tree.  TIA!

I tried to attach a .tiff photo.  It is 538 KB and the limit is 500 KB.  Please let me know if you want to try it, I will gladly email it directly.
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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 08:01 BST (UK) »
I recommend you post it here.  We have a few contributors who can deal with German.

Your photo is very close to the size limit so it shouldn't be hard to bring it under by one of these options.

Just be sure to perform any of these actions on a copy of your photo file, so there's no risk of damage to the original.

1.  Use the Windows clipping tool to remove unimportant parts of the photo ie margins etc.

2.  Use the clipping tool to split it into two halves in separate images.

3.  Convert to another image file format.

It's possible that it may be smaller in a different format.

You could try converting the .TIFF to a .JPG using the method here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGc-WarMK3c

Disclaimer:  I haven't tried #3 myself and can't vouch for whether it will work.  However, my experience is that generally .JPGs are smaller than most other image formats for the same image.

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 16:31 BST (UK) »
Um, yeah.  I went through and cropped off the left 1/3 of the page, saved it, and now the file size is 1MB.   :o

I recommend you post it here.  We have a few contributors who can deal with German.

Your photo is very close to the size limit so it shouldn't be hard to bring it under by one of these options.

Just be sure to perform any of these actions on a copy of your photo file, so there's no risk of damage to the original.

1.  Use the Windows clipping tool to remove unimportant parts of the photo ie margins etc.

2.  Use the clipping tool to split it into two halves in separate images.

3.  Convert to another image file format.

It's possible that it may be smaller in a different format.

You could try converting the .TIFF to a .JPG using the method here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGc-WarMK3c

Disclaimer:  I haven't tried #3 myself and can't vouch for whether it will work.  However, my experience is that generally .JPGs are smaller than most other image formats for the same image.
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Germany, Norway

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 17:06 BST (UK) »
Something has gone a little wrong it should not have doubled the size ???

Do you have the original file to try again, did you save it as a .jpeg or something different ? On some software you are given a choice on the quality of your image, if you choose best quality this may have increased the file size..??

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 17:23 BST (UK) »
This is Windows 10, I can't overwrite the extension to change how it is saved.

Something has gone a little wrong it should not have doubled the size ???

Do you have the original file to try again, did you save it as a .jpeg or something different ? On some software you are given a choice on the quality of your image, if you choose best quality this may have increased the file size..??

There are some tips on images here which may help additionally for you

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,372537.0.html

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Scotland, England

Tracing back Cunninghams, Chalmers, Horners, Barbours and cousin lines.

Germany, Norway

Tracing back Schmidt, Bahruth, Wehringer, Partheymuller and cousin lines.

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 19:35 BST (UK) »
I've looked at the certificate on ancestry.

Auguste Ulrich, single, tailoress of Grevenweg 61, Hamm [district of Hamburg] reported that
Eduard Bahruth, Expeditions-Assistent [assistant at a shipping company], 72 y 1 month old, Lutheran,
resident at the same address in Hamm
born in Hamburg, married in a second marriage to Francisca Christiana Maria born Hartner, widowed Ulrich
Son of Anna Gerdrut Bahruth, later widowed Richers, who died here in Hamm
has died in his apartment in Hamm at 8pm on 26 January 1891

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 20:35 BST (UK) »
I've seen the name Ulrich in a couple different documents, do you think there might have been a relationship there?

I've looked at the certificate on ancestry.

Auguste Ulrich, single, tailoress of Grevenweg 61, Hamm [district of Hamburg] reported that
Eduard Bahruth, Expeditions-Assistent [assistant at a shipping company], 72 y 1 month old, Lutheran,
resident at the same address in Hamm
born in Hamburg, married in a second marriage to Francisca Christiana Maria born Hartner, widowed Ulrich
Son of Anna Gerdrut Bahruth, later widowed Richers, who died here in Hamm
has died in his apartment in Hamm at 8pm on 26 January 1891
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Tracing back Cunninghams, Chalmers, Horners, Barbours and cousin lines.

Germany, Norway

Tracing back Schmidt, Bahruth, Wehringer, Partheymuller and cousin lines.

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 22:27 BST (UK) »
You're welcome.

I would guess that Auguste was Eduard's stepdaughter, i.e. Francisca's daughter from her first marriage to Mr. Ulrich.

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Re: Help - 19th century German script
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 22:42 BST (UK) »
Anna Auguste Ulrich of Heidenweg 49 in Hamburg-Sasel died at home on 20 Feb 1947.

Her sister, Marie Bahruth, resident at the same address, had reported the death.

Anna Auguste was born in Berlin on 25 Dec 1868 to August Christian Ulrich, master tailor, and Francisca Christiana Maria born Hartner.