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Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« on: Wednesday 23 August 17 07:01 BST (UK) »
Hi
Robert Laver m Hannah Fairhead 10 March 1789 at St Michael Archangel in Braintree. Hannah is from the neighbouring Parish in Bocking.

Robert is probably the Robert Laver b Aug 24th, bapt Sept 29th 1762 to Robert (snr) and Henrietta in the same Parish.  This couple don't appear to have any other children unless I've missed them.

I have a couple of potential requests for assistance please:

I have identified that there are in the immediate years prior to 1762 several children born to a Robert  and Sarah Laver : Elizabeth in 1760; Elizabeth in 1759, Henry in 1755 and also Henry in 1754. I haven't managed to check the burials and wondered if Sarah died and Robert remarried or are there two Roberts. (There don't appear to be too many Lavers in the Parish)?

The marriage of Robert & Henrietta is not in this parish - has anyone spotted a marriage in a neighbouring parish?
What are the most likely neighbouring parish's to search?

Finally I can't locate a birth for Hannah Fairhead in Bocking. Has anyone spotted a birth in a neighbouring parish. Also on Ancestry there are a number of family trees referring to Hannah Fairchild. I'm presuming this is a mistake.

Any assistance please would be greatly received.
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Warwick
CUL:Armstrong,Barron,Bell,Coulson,Cousin,Cowper,Dryden,  Edmondson,Hodgson,Irving,Johnston,Lowthian,McIntyre,Moor, Rutter,Scot,Watson,Dobley,Harrison
WES:Lowthian,Pearson,Sowerby
LANC:Harrison,Mortimer,Woods
YKS:Driver,Turnell,Turton
LEI:Turnell,Brewin
LDN:Moody,Ford,Jeffery,Wright
CON:Newcombe
ESS:Andrews,Linnett,Fairhead,Laver,Bedwell
LIN:Capps,Eastland,Liman,Mansfield,Pidd,Straps
DBY:Else, Norman,Oakes
MGY:Rees,Mortimer,Hughes,Humphreys
MON:Attwood,Williams,Herbert,Rumsey
France:Mortimer

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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hi again
Have found this evening a listing in Boyds Marriage Index for 1751 for Robert Laver m Sarah King in Black Notley on the south west side of Braintree.
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Warwick
CUL:Armstrong,Barron,Bell,Coulson,Cousin,Cowper,Dryden,  Edmondson,Hodgson,Irving,Johnston,Lowthian,McIntyre,Moor, Rutter,Scot,Watson,Dobley,Harrison
WES:Lowthian,Pearson,Sowerby
LANC:Harrison,Mortimer,Woods
YKS:Driver,Turnell,Turton
LEI:Turnell,Brewin
LDN:Moody,Ford,Jeffery,Wright
CON:Newcombe
ESS:Andrews,Linnett,Fairhead,Laver,Bedwell
LIN:Capps,Eastland,Liman,Mansfield,Pidd,Straps
DBY:Else, Norman,Oakes
MGY:Rees,Mortimer,Hughes,Humphreys
MON:Attwood,Williams,Herbert,Rumsey
France:Mortimer

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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 14:59 BST (UK) »
Hi again
Have found this evening a listing in Boyds Marriage Index for 1751 for Robert Laver m Sarah King in Black Notley on the south west side of Braintree.
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Warwick

Robert was a widower and Sarah, single from Braintree, 3rd November.
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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 21:13 BST (UK) »
Wow ... your Robert Laver senior was unlucky! When he married Sarah, he was a widower. Found the marriage before that in cressing 1/8/1748 to Hannah bird. He was a widower then too!!
They had a daughter Sarah 6/1/1751. Hannah died 23/3/1751.

Braintree marriage for Robert laver and Henrietta bedwell 1761. No date on the record. HOWEVER ... he is down as a batchelor. She is a spinster. Maybe he didn't want to frighten her off with three dead wives already??
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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 21:52 BST (UK) »
Hi
Thank you both for that information- very helpful. Yes Nannyj if he did lose two wives very unlucky.

I wonder if anyone can find if and when Sarah died? (circa 1760/1?)  and Robert's marriage to Henrietta? which might 'prove' that Robert (if he was a widower?) who married  Henrietta is the same Robert who was husband to Hannah Bird and Sarah King.

The ultimate aim here is to
1. find to more about Henrietta
2. see if I can identify the parish to find the birth and parentage of Robert (sen) (who married Henrietta's). If the two Roberts are the same person then given Robert (husband of Sarah) named both his first two sons Henry I'm thinking his father might be Henry. Also we now have first marriage in Cressing and second marriage in Black Notley.

Interested to see if others can turn anything else up.

Thank you again.
Regards
Warwick

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WES:Lowthian,Pearson,Sowerby
LANC:Harrison,Mortimer,Woods
YKS:Driver,Turnell,Turton
LEI:Turnell,Brewin
LDN:Moody,Ford,Jeffery,Wright
CON:Newcombe
ESS:Andrews,Linnett,Fairhead,Laver,Bedwell
LIN:Capps,Eastland,Liman,Mansfield,Pidd,Straps
DBY:Else, Norman,Oakes
MGY:Rees,Mortimer,Hughes,Humphreys
MON:Attwood,Williams,Herbert,Rumsey
France:Mortimer

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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 22:33 BST (UK) »
There are no other Henriettas mentioned in any of the neighbouring parishes so I would be very surprised if this wasn't your Henrietta. Especially as the dates all tie in.
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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 23:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks NannyJ
With my work distractions this morning I missed your Henrietta Bedwell reference - that is very good to get.

That is great to have and yes I agree that on the likelihood it's the same person.
That's good to get.
Now have to find first marriage for Robert and births for both Robert and Henrietta too.

Thank you again.
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Warwick
CUL:Armstrong,Barron,Bell,Coulson,Cousin,Cowper,Dryden,  Edmondson,Hodgson,Irving,Johnston,Lowthian,McIntyre,Moor, Rutter,Scot,Watson,Dobley,Harrison
WES:Lowthian,Pearson,Sowerby
LANC:Harrison,Mortimer,Woods
YKS:Driver,Turnell,Turton
LEI:Turnell,Brewin
LDN:Moody,Ford,Jeffery,Wright
CON:Newcombe
ESS:Andrews,Linnett,Fairhead,Laver,Bedwell
LIN:Capps,Eastland,Liman,Mansfield,Pidd,Straps
DBY:Else, Norman,Oakes
MGY:Rees,Mortimer,Hughes,Humphreys
MON:Attwood,Williams,Herbert,Rumsey
France:Mortimer

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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 23:25 BST (UK) »
Could this be her burial in Braintree?
Heneritta Laver
buried 22 January 1830
age 87
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLS-X3K?i=2195&cc=1465710&cat=488747

Which, if her age was reasonably accurate, puts her birth year around 1742
She would have been approximately 19 when she married Robert Laver in 1761.
Are you sure that this man had previous wives, nannyj said he was a bachelor.
NBI has a burial of a Robert Laver in Braintree in 1781
Two Roberts seem to have died as infants (1787, 1794)
Then, finally, a Robert Laver buried at Braintree, 1 Feb 1833, age 70 (possibly the son of Robert + Henrietta)
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Re: Robert Laver & Hannah Fairhead
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 August 17 23:57 BST (UK) »
Jon
Hi
Thank you for that additional information - that will be her and good to have her burial. Also explains way some Ancestry trees are showing her birth circa 1742/3.

Nannyj suggested that a reason he called himself a bachelor was possibly that he already had 3 wives and didn't want to scare Henrietta off.  What might add weight to this would be if we could find a death for a Sarah Laver circa 1760/61?

By chance does the NBI listing for Robert Laver dying in 1781 have an age?

Yes the Robert buried in 1833 is considered as Robert and Henrietta's son having been born in August 1762.

Thanks again for that information.
Regards
Warwick
CUL:Armstrong,Barron,Bell,Coulson,Cousin,Cowper,Dryden,  Edmondson,Hodgson,Irving,Johnston,Lowthian,McIntyre,Moor, Rutter,Scot,Watson,Dobley,Harrison
WES:Lowthian,Pearson,Sowerby
LANC:Harrison,Mortimer,Woods
YKS:Driver,Turnell,Turton
LEI:Turnell,Brewin
LDN:Moody,Ford,Jeffery,Wright
CON:Newcombe
ESS:Andrews,Linnett,Fairhead,Laver,Bedwell
LIN:Capps,Eastland,Liman,Mansfield,Pidd,Straps
DBY:Else, Norman,Oakes
MGY:Rees,Mortimer,Hughes,Humphreys
MON:Attwood,Williams,Herbert,Rumsey
France:Mortimer