Author Topic: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns  (Read 940 times)

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Hi all,

My 4x gt grandfather John Mellor's nephew Charles Mellor is causing me a little bother, due to the fact that I am unable to locate three records pertaining to him. They being as follows:

His marriage - According to the new GRO index the 10 children of the marriage have the mother's maiden surname of Hodcroft. Census returns show the wife's name to be Elizabeth. Their first child Ann was born in 1835/36. The marriage probably taking place just before this. The marriage is likely to have taken place in either Stretford or somewhere else in Manchester.

1861 & 1871 Censuses - I have all the others pertinent to this couple. These two censuses however, I cannot find them at all!

Charles Mellor (1815-1891) & Elizabeth Hodcroft (1817/18-1868?) are in Stretford, Lancashire in 1851 where Charles is an Ag Lab & in Sutton, Cheshire in 1881 where Charles is a Widower & a Carter. Charles was born in Stretford & Elizabeth in Manchester.

If anyone is able to help with locating these records I would be most grateful.

Many thanks in advance.

Kind regards

David
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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 August 17 22:02 BST (UK) »
Can you include the names/birthyears and birthplaces of any children likely to have still been at home in 1861
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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 August 17 22:04 BST (UK) »
He is on the 1871 in Cheshire -  using Family Search


Charles Mellor    Head    M    55    Shelford, Lancashire
Elizabeth Mellor    Wife    F    54    Shelford, Lancashire
Samuel Mellor    Son    M    28    Shelford, Lancashire
Nancy Mellor    Daughter    F    18    Shelford, Lancashire
Sarah Mellor    Daughter    F    14    Shelford, Lancashire
William Mellor    Grandson    M    12    Shelford, Lancashire
Hannah Mellor    Daughter    F    11    Gawsworth, Cheshire
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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 August 17 22:09 BST (UK) »
1861 in Sutton as Mellon - reference RG9 Piece 2584 Folio 41 Page 23
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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 August 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
Hi CaroleW,

Many thanks for your replies, very much appreciated.

Is that the 1871 census rather than 1861? The ages would suggest this.

Samuel b1842, Nancy b1852, Sarah b1857 & Hannah/Anna b1859, birthplaces as you have given.

In 1861 there would also be Mary b1846, Elizabeth b1849 & Ellen b1855. all born Stretford.

Just caught your last post re 1861 as I was about to post this, many thanks indeed. Mellon, no wonder I couldn't find them!

My thanks again,

Kind regards

David
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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 August 17 16:28 BST (UK) »
Might just be a coincidence, but there is a Marriage of Charles Mellor and Betsy Adcroft at Manchester Cathedral, 4 April 1837, he being a Farmer.

As they both put a mark, I would imagine they were unable to spell their names.

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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 August 17 16:42 BST (UK) »
Good find.  Looks like daughter Ann was born before the marriage:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FMR3-JSZ

Debra  :)

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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 August 17 17:17 BST (UK) »
Could well be more children, using variations of Hodcroft as the Mother's maiden name!

Eric
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Davies/Williams :Ruabon/Wrexham
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Re: Charles Mellor of Stretford - Help Needed to find Marriage & 2 Census Returns
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 August 17 17:27 BST (UK) »
1841 indexed as Mello and living in Stretford.  All born in county

Charles Mellor   25 agric labourer
Elizabeth  20
Ann  5
Margaret  3
Charles  1

HO107 Piece 584/13 Folio 27 Page 13

Births  Charles Mellor March 1840 Chorlton 20 289 - GRO online shows mmn Hodcroft
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