panormo

[chrissyann]

I wonder if anyone can help me trace William Panormo who was born in Pimlico, London about 1797
according to the 1851 census.He died in Derby in 1867 but I'm really trying to find his parents but have come up with nothing so far.Would be really grateful for any help
           Chrissyann

[avm228]

Panormo seems to have been a by-name adopted by the Trusiano family of musical instrument makers, originally from Sicily but who migrated via Naples, Paris and Ireland to London in the 18th century.  I can't immediately link William to them, however.

Have you found him in 1861, and if so what were his age and birthplace then?  I see that he was already an engraver by the time he married Mary McDougall in Liverpool on 17 April 1815.

Recorded age at death for William Panormo was 71 (Jun qtr 1867 Shardlow).

[avm228]

Here they are in 1841 in Manchester; Cecilia may be a good clue to links with the musical family.

William Panormo 45 Engraver N [his details are crossed through but legible - perhaps away on census night]
William do 20 Clerk N
Ellen do 18 N
Henry do 15 N
Cecilia do 20 Professor of Music I

[avm228]

I had wondered whether the Cecilia Panormo in William's 1841 household was the one born 1 Mar 1823 and baptised 4 May 1823 at St Anne, Soho (parents Louis and Sarah).

Louis Panormo was a distinguished maker of "Spanish-style" guitars in London in the early 19th century, and it seems he was the fourth son of Vincenzo Trusiano Panormo: www.rootschat.com/links/01kmq/

However Louis' daughter Cecilia was with him, aged 18, in London in 1841.  The Cecilia in Manchester with William, apparently born in Ireland according to that census, must be someone else.

[mirl]

1851 HO107/2143/564/15

They are in Derbyshire, William, wife Mary, son William, son Henry

[amondg]

Directories on ancestry for Derbyshire
1855 he is at 28 Irongate
1857  South Parade   same address as 1851 census
1862 29 Queen Street.

[heywood]

Baptisms which might help tracing their marriage
All have parents William and Mary

Elizabeth Panormo 10 September 1820 St Luke Finsbury
William Panormo 28 September 1821 St Luke
Ellen Panormo 20 October 1824 St Luke
Henry Panorine 26 August 1827   Limehouse St Anne. - probably mistranscribed as difficult to read

Heywood

[avm228]

The marriage was 17 Apr 1815 Liverpool - referred to (briefly) at reply #1.

[heywood]

The marriage was 17 Apr 1815 Liverpool - referred to (briefly) at reply #1.

Oh sorry - I missed that.   that's why I can't see anything.