How do I find which is the right John?

[Margaretindevon]

Hello all,
I have just started looking at my Family History after a break of some years. I have done fairly well on the main lines in my family, getting back to 1414 on one line, but am now looking at others further back.

The problem:-
My  Mary Ann Brown was Baptised in 1834 at St Philip and Jacob, Bristol Gloucestershire. Father John, mother Ann.

The parents appear in the 1841 Census of Temple, Bristol, John's age given as 35, Ann's as 30 where it showed they had a son Charles aged 15, and Mary Ann aged 7. I do know these ages were rounded up or down in this census.

In the 1841 census of St Augustine the Less, Bristol, Ann is shown as a widow, Charles is 26, Mary Ann 17. in both cases they said they were born in Bristol.

I have searched for a marriage for John and Ann from 1811 to 1825 and come up with four possible marriages so far.

Has anyone any idea as to how I can pinpoint the correct John & Ann?

Also, any pointers as to how to find John's baptism would be gratefully received. I have tried a search for John/father Charles  ( in case his son was named for his father) but so far with no success.

Thanks for reading this and for any help received.
Margaretindevon

[Girl Guide]

Can you give us the reference for the 1841 census please?  I'm not coming up with a John and Ann with a Mary Ann and Charles.

I can find a Charles and Ann with children Charles, Rebecca, Mary Ann, John and Thomas living at West Street, St. P & J without.

Mary Ann is 8 in this census.

Charles Snr is a painter - all the family are born in county.

Census ref:-  HO107
Piece number   378
Book number   2
Folio number   9
Page number   13

Registration District is Clifton

[suzard]

The parents appear in the 1841 Census of Temple, Bristol, John's age given as 35, Ann's as 30 where it showed they had a son Charles aged 15, and Mary Ann aged 7. I do know these ages were rounded up or down in this census.

In the 1841 census of St Augustine the Less, Bristol, Ann is shown as a widow, Charles is 26, Mary Ann 17. in both cases they said they were born in Bristol.






Margaretindevon

1841 census ages of adults 15+ years ages were rounded DOWN to the nearest 5 years

is this the 1851 census you refer to?
Host? St bristol Gloucestershire
Ann Brown Head widow 44 Tailoress
Charles son U 26? (difficult to read on image) Mariner
Mary Ann daughter 17 Tailoress
David Francis visitor U 42 Mariner
all b Bristol
HO107 1951 149 13

Suz

[suzard]

there is this baptism
St Phillip & St Jacob bristol
23 Dec 1827
Charles James Brown
parents John & Ann

could this be your Charles?

Suz

[Ayashi]

The General Register Office website has births from 1837 onwards with mother's maiden name. If you can find the other John and Ann couples on census and they have any children born after Sept 1837 you may be able to find the maiden name and eliminate marriages on that basis.

[LizzieL]

there is this baptism
St Phillip & St Jacob bristol
23 Dec 1827
Charles James Brown
parents John & Ann

could this be your Charles?

Suz

A John Henry Brown was bapt same day same place same parents names

[Margaretindevon]

Thanks for the replies.

Girl Guide. The reference for the 1841 census is
HO 107/375/7
Parish is Temple
Sub Registration District is St Mary Redcliffe
Piece 375
Book 7
Folio 13
Page 20
Hope you can find it now.

Suzard
Yes that is the 1851 census I was referring to. According to the census Charles was born in 1825, so it is quite possible the baptism you found in St Philip and Jacob is his. Proof is another matter.

Ayasha
That is a very good idea. Thank you very much.

After a lapse of ten years I am a little rusty.

[Margaretindevon]

LizzieL

My John and Ann only had the two children, Charles and Mary Ann.

Thanks for your help.

[Margaretindevon]

I should amend my reply to say that in the 1841 census there was no sign of a John Henry Brown, but he may of course not have survived to 1841,